Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 19th Sep 2010 20:32 UTC, submitted by sawboss
Intel On a Windows Vista or Vindows 7 disk, all versions of the operating system are present, from Starter to Ultimate, and everything in between. So, if you want too upgrade to a more capable version of Windows down the road, all you need to do is pop the Windows disk in, let Windows Anytime Upgrade do its thing, and you're done. It seems like Intel is experimenting with a similar technology... For its processors.
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But will it still upgrade...
by UltraZelda64 on Mon 20th Sep 2010 02:33 UTC
UltraZelda64
Member since:
2006-12-05

...if I run Linux? BSD? Or hell, if I re-install Windows will it remember that it was upgraded?

This is not good... not good at all. Intel, you lost me, unless this quickly flops before getting out of "test market" phase.

I recall reading about many Intel processors, even ones you would expect to, not supporting hardware virtualization. That was strike one. Here's strike two. Pretty soon my mind will be made up: AMD only.

What's so hard about buying what you f***ing want in the first place?

Edited 2010-09-20 02:37 UTC

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RE: But will it still upgrade...
by Morgan on Mon 20th Sep 2010 04:41 in reply to "But will it still upgrade..."
Morgan Member since:
2005-06-29

I recall reading about many Intel processors, even ones you would expect to, not supporting hardware virtualization.


That's the bug that bit me. Granted, my system was built from donated parts so I shouldn't complain, but at the time I was under the impression that all Core2 chips had VT-x. It was interesting to see the vast difference from my old single core AMD chip with AMD-V to this C2D without it, when running VirtualBox.

It was also an eye-opener to find that the OS X version of VirtualBox requires manual editing of the configuration file for each VM to turn off the VT-x flags.

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tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

So apparently, It is intel's fault they can't read your mind and figure which processors should offer the arbitrary features you "expect to" because you are too lazy to check the actual specs for the product you are buying?

I have no clue how moving over to AMD is going to change that for the better.

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bolomkxxviii Member since:
2006-05-19

If they are honest about what is inside the computer and what you have access to then it is not a problem. The problem is the consumer will have a hard time comparing computers at time of purchase if each computer has multiple specifications (what is currently enabled and what potential it has). Marketing departments will advertise the machine with the maximum specs whether they are enabled or not. That is just the way it works.

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UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

So apparently, It is intel's fault they can't read your mind and figure which processors should offer the arbitrary features you "expect to" because you are too lazy to check the actual specs for the product you are buying?

It is when someone gets a higher-end processor, expecting it to be more capable, and then they realize that it doesn't have what many people would consider a higher-end feature. And then when they realize that some random lower-end processor they sell *does* have this feature, shit hits the fan. Is it really such a bad thing to expect a more powerful, expensive processor to have more powerful features? Really?

I have no clue how moving over to AMD is going to change that for the better.

Well, just about every recent and semi-recent AMD processor has hardware virtualization, and a lower price in general. Which is why the last couple computers I recommended to people had AMD processors inside. And AMD, so far, isn't pulling this shit on us (so far...).

So far, I haven't been bit by Intel since AMD's been a cheaper in general for approximate (or more) power and more features, but all this stuff adds up. My opinion of Intel is not too high right now. With AMD, so far at least you get what you expect... Intel's line (all the way down to their completely non-descriptive names) is a horrendously complicated mess.

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