Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sun 19th Sep 2010 19:05 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Novell and Ximian Novell has been pretty much for sale for six months, and now The Wall Street Journal is reporting that Novell's Linux business may be bought by VMware. Novell's other assets, which includes Novell Netware, will then be bought by a private-equity backed software company called Attachmate Corp.
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RE[4]: Worry?
by kaiwai on Mon 20th Sep 2010 03:08 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Worry?"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

That blogger reminds me of Miguel in his naive view of working with Microsoft. Microsoft hates Linux, the Novell deal never changed that.

For one I am sure there are all kinds of clauses that MS wrote into their agreement that activate in case Novell is purchased to protect their IP from being used against them.

Since Mono goes beyond C# which is an ECMA standard they are on very shaky ground.

There isn't much to monetize anyways unless they plan on closing the source. Mono ASP.NET is free and open source and it still isn't being used much because very few websites need more than a VPS. Anyone with a website that requires a dedicated server can afford Windows Server.

Though I work with .net I never understood why Novell was so interested in investing in Mono. Nokia has the right idea which is to invest in a cross-dev platform and use c# as a binding. Instead of piggybacking asp.net Novell should have invested in their own web framework.


I don't think Microsoft hates Linux, what Microsoft will do is start charging for the patented technology which eventually will jack up the price of Linux distributions so that the 'price advantage' of Linux goes. Once the price advantage of Linux evaporates then Microsoft believes that they'll be in a stronger position to win customers over based on non-price factors such as "we're a really big company - no one ever got fired for purchasing Microsoft". Its a nice easy way to remove the one big advantage that Linux has thus forcing the issue back to technology - something that Microsoft can compete with quite easily rather than entering into a pricing war that results in decreasing profit margins.

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RE[5]: Worry?
by nt_jerkface on Mon 20th Sep 2010 08:09 in reply to "RE[4]: Worry?"
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I don't think Microsoft hates Linux, what Microsoft will do is start charging for the patented technology which eventually will jack up the price of Linux distributions so that the 'price advantage' of Linux goes.


I think Ballmer hates Linux and mainly injected cash into Novell as a move against Red Hat. It didn't work and MS might decide to cut out while they can and take .net with them.

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RE[6]: Worry?
by kaiwai on Mon 20th Sep 2010 09:42 in reply to "RE[5]: Worry?"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I think Ballmer hates Linux and mainly injected cash into Novell as a move against Red Hat. It didn't work and MS might decide to cut out while they can and take .net with them.


*shrugs* I simply don't see Mono gaining traction in the *NIX world because of the lack of native development tools up to the same standard of what Microsoft provides. I look at Visual Studio and Expression Studio and I don't see a single thing in the *NIX world that can hold a candle to it. Mono on the server side just isn't scalable either; they retrofit some VM stuff together and call it a framework but as soon as you chuck it on a site with several hundred thousand visitors per day the thing will go belly up. So it just doesn't have the strength in any areas hence people stick with Java.

I don't believe Microsoft has any 'evil plan' in store for the OSS world other than producing great products and marketing on those strengths. When push come to shove and one looks at the cost of going with a commercial Linux compared to Windows the main competition for the Linux world is the commercial UNIX world (but that might change with Oracle now owning Solaris). For Microsoft their shipments keep going up and up without needing to even sneeze at the Linux world. This 'scaremarketing' by the Linux advocates simply exposes their fear of Microsoft than Microsoft fearing anything to do with the *NIX world.

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