Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 20th Sep 2010 20:13 UTC, submitted by diegocg
Qt Jesse Barnes has posted a screenshot showing two clocks implemented in Qt, drawn natively in Wayland, the next-generation display server.
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Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Tue 21st Sep 2010 04:46 UTC
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

Awesome stuff; hopefully this will translate into something that'll replace the current Xorg within the next couple of years. It is depressing to see many operating systems who rely on Xorg being held back because of the current state of affairs.There are many operating systems that rely on Xorg that would really show their true power only if they had a way of providing a better way of the GUI being handled than the current situation.

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by mtzmtulivu on Tue 21st Sep 2010 08:28 in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
mtzmtulivu Member since:
2006-11-14

Awesome stuff; hopefully this will translate into something that'll replace the current Xorg within the next couple of years. It is depressing to see many operating systems who rely on Xorg being held back because of the current state of affairs.There are many operating systems that rely on Xorg that would really show their true power only if they had a way of providing a better way of the GUI being handled than the current situation.


your comment does not make sense. You have operating system at the bottom, X.org in the middle and window managers+GUI toolkits+desktop environments features dependent of their toolkits widget capabilities+other stuff.

X.org problems hinders stuff that sit ontop of it, not below it and operating systems are not supposed to expose their functionality to GUI applications and hence no operating system should be dependent and held back by X.

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Tue 21st Sep 2010 12:11 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

your comment does not make sense. You have operating system at the bottom, X.org in the middle and window managers+GUI toolkits+desktop environments features dependent of their toolkits widget capabilities+other stuff.

X.org problems hinders stuff that sit ontop of it, not below it and operating systems are not supposed to expose their functionality to GUI applications and hence no operating system should be dependent and held back by X.


For the vast majority of end users the operating system experience starts at the GUI, if the GUI experience is crap then for all intents and purposes for the end user the operating system is crap. Please, next time, read the posts fully instead of scanning through in a hurry then firing off a post that doesn't address a single issue I raised.

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by Toad on Tue 21st Sep 2010 09:03 in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
Toad Member since:
2005-11-27

Awesome stuff; hopefully this will translate into something that'll replace the current Xorg within the next couple of years. It is depressing to see many operating systems who rely on Xorg being held back because of the current state of affairs.There are many operating systems that rely on Xorg that would really show their true power only if they had a way of providing a better way of the GUI being handled than the current situation.


Xorg doesn't need to be replaced, its x11 that needs to be deprecated, and the lead developers of Wayland are working for Xorg and wayland uses the same new graphic driver model that Xorg/x11 uses. We don't need rivality, we need cooperation, and idealy Xorg could adopt Wayland as the new recomended protocol for GUI toolkits and supply a rootless X11 on top of wayland for legacy application.

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RE[2]: Comment by kaiwai
by kaiwai on Tue 21st Sep 2010 12:14 in reply to "RE: Comment by kaiwai"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Xorg doesn't need to be replaced, its x11 that needs to be deprecated, and the lead developers of Wayland are working for Xorg and wayland uses the same new graphic driver model that Xorg/x11 uses. We don't need rivality, we need cooperation, and idealy Xorg could adopt Wayland as the new recomended protocol for GUI toolkits and supply a rootless X11 on top of wayland for legacy application.


Correct, I should have said 'xserver' instead of Xorg considering that Wayland is replacing xserver rather than the 'whole stack'. Hopefully it'll translate very soon in an Xorg release that will have xserver completely replaced.

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RE: Comment by kaiwai
by demetrioussharpe on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 23:17 in reply to "Comment by kaiwai"
demetrioussharpe Member since:
2009-01-09

Awesome stuff; hopefully this will translate into something that'll replace the current Xorg within the next couple of years. It is depressing to see many operating systems who rely on Xorg being held back because of the current state of affairs.There are many operating systems that rely on Xorg that would really show their true power only if they had a way of providing a better way of the GUI being handled than the current situation.


Not to sound like a broken record or anything, but I'm sure that the Y-Windows project could use some developmental assistance from anyone who's still fed up with X-Windows. Perhaps you should take a look: http://y-windows.org

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