Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Sep 2010 21:15 UTC, submitted by Gregory Plummer
GNU, GPL, Open Source "So what is the state of the Hurd? Is it vaporware, like Duke Nukem Forever? Fortunately not: the code exists, there is still work going on (for instance as part of Google Summer of Code), and there are even some relatively functional Hurd distributions. Let's look first at the code and the current architecture, and then at the Hurd distributions."
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by Tuishimi on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 15:21 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Outdated article"
Tuishimi
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2005-07-06

Very true. Having actually worked on VMS it does make me feel some affinity toward NT an NTFS... tho' I think RMS over Files-11 blew NTFS away. It was so nice to work with. Just as DCL blows DOS CMD away. In fact just about everything to do with VMS and the layered services and apps blew Windows away. ;) (I am a little biased in that regard).

And also as the poster below you mentioned... the relationship of Mac OS to BeOS, ditto. BeOS was so much better than Mac OS at the time... (opinion)

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by bogomipz on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 18:49 in reply to "RE[6]: Outdated article"
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2005-07-11

Of course BeOS was better than System 7. Why else would Apple consider buying Be Corp.? They went with NeXT Software because JLG demanded more than Apple were willing to pay. (Although they ended up paying more than twice as much for NeXT.)

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by Tuishimi on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 19:17 in reply to "RE[7]: Outdated article"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

True... and they also got a CEO who has since led them nowhere but up. I doubt Jean-Luis (spelling?) would have given them that.

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by mkone on Fri 24th Sep 2010 19:26 in reply to "RE[7]: Outdated article"
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2006-03-14

Of course BeOS was better than System 7. Why else would Apple consider buying Be Corp.? They went with NeXT Software because JLG demanded more than Apple were willing to pay. (Although they ended up paying more than twice as much for NeXT.)


Probably a very fortunate turn of events for Apple. Quite apart from getting a good OS, they got Jobs back. Love him or hate him, the man has transformed Apple. He has added $200bn to the valuation of the company since he took over.

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by tylerdurden on Sat 25th Sep 2010 05:04 in reply to "RE[7]: Outdated article"
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2009-03-17

NeXT was worth more than Be among other things because they actually had a proven product, a very very very good technical staff, and at the time NeXT was actually a profitable company. And things like WebObjects were taking off. Never mind that Steve Jobs was actually a good business man.

By contrast, Be had an unproven OS which booted real fast to basically do nothing. The programming and dev tools were nowhere near the depth and breath that NeXT had (compare the openstep API vs. the Be half assed C++ libraries and weep). It has absolutely no credibility in the business sector. And was ran by Gassee who had almost ran his Apple division to the ground. And whose bad business skills were showcased when he completely f*cked the negotiation with Apple, thinking he had the upper hand over both Apple and NeXT. What a maroon.

I feel bad for the engineers who worked for Gassee though.

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by zizban on Thu 23rd Sep 2010 03:02 in reply to "RE[6]: Outdated article"
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2005-07-06

No BeOS at the time was very primitive. Poor network support, poor printing support, wobbly kernel. People compare BeOS 5 with the Mac OS but at the time when Apple purchased NeXT the BeOS was very rough.

Though in time it go to be great.

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by Tuishimi on Thu 23rd Sep 2010 04:59 in reply to "RE[7]: Outdated article"
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2005-07-06

Yeah, I ran it with Bone and some other modifications, but it was... I don't know... "fun" to me. I still prefer the interface over Mac OS. I still hold out for Haiku to go Beta.

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