Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 17:58 UTC
Apple As I was casually browsing around today, I came across this blog post. It's about the recently released VLC media player for the iPad, which you can use to play just about any video under the sun on your iPad. The blog post is a complaint about a bit of help text that's not properly rendered inside the application - annoying, but no dealbreaker. Until I actually read the text - this is how you're supposed to get content on your iPad?
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RE: This isn't new...
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 19:20 UTC in reply to "This isn't new..."
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

Sure, us tech minded people don't like this... but everyone else, they have been trained to think one place, so a few steps isn't as big a deal to them then to remember "Okay, what do I use iTunes for and when do I go to My Computer and create a folder"


Drag and drop files on iPhone icon in Explorer/Finder.

...or...

Load up iTunes, wait 60 seconds for it to load. Drop files in iTunes - but only the files the iPad actually supports. Wait for the files to be imported. Press sync, wait.

Then figure out which video/audio files iTunes did not accept. Then go to your device in iTunes. Go to the Apps tab. Go to File Sharing, select VLC from the list, click Add. Use an unintuitive file picker to browse to the files iTunes did not accept. Wait for the files to upload. Repeat last paragraph for different files other than media files (if needed).

How, again, is the second method supposed to be easier?

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RE[2]: This isn't new...
by Macrat on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 20:46 in reply to "RE: This isn't new..."
Macrat Member since:
2006-03-27

Drag and drop files on iPhone icon in Explorer/Finder.

...or...

Load up iTunes, wait 60 seconds for it to load. Drop files in iTunes


Averages users don't drag and drop anything.

Most of their media comes from ripping CDs in iTunes or buying from the Apple iTunes store.

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RE[3]: This isn't new...
by poundsmack on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 20:50 in reply to "RE[2]: This isn't new..."
poundsmack Member since:
2005-07-13

"Averages users don't drag and drop anything. "

i wouldn't say that, i'd say its about a 50/50 split

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RE[3]: This isn't new...
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 20:58 in reply to "RE[2]: This isn't new..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Averages users don't drag and drop anything.


Generalisation = fail. I see people drag and drop all the time - and I have zero geek friends (geeks freak me out).

Most of their media comes from ripping CDs in iTunes


Barely any one of my friends buys CDs. I'm the lone ranger when it comes to that in my social circle.

or buying from the Apple iTunes store.


Haha, good one. In the US maybe - here, not so much. I don't know ANYONE who buys stuff in the iTMS, mostly because downloading is a) legal and b) cheaper and c) torrentz.com actually has worthwhile stuff (no films or TV series in Europe's iTMS, for example).

Also, and maybe more importantly, iTMS requires a credit card. People in The Netherlands don't pay with credit cards - we have regular bank cards with checking accounts for that. Credit cards are nearly exclusively used while travelling.

Edited 2010-09-22 20:59 UTC

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RE[3]: This isn't new...
by segedunum on Thu 23rd Sep 2010 00:47 in reply to "RE[2]: This isn't new..."
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

Averages users don't drag and drop anything.[/quote]
Wow. So no one opens a document or has anything sent to them via e-mail or is exposed to files in any way? What planet do you live on?

[quote]Most of their media comes from ripping CDs in iTunes or buying from the Apple iTunes store.

Most will have at one time or another shared tunes with other people or sent them copies and some will have actually downloaded them from elsewhere without iTunes ever having been involved. That might come as a shock, I know. That means dealing with files.

I missed the memo on how iTunes has become a file transfer application that says what you can and can't transfer.

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RE[3]: This isn't new...
by No it isnt on Thu 23rd Sep 2010 12:38 in reply to "RE[2]: This isn't new..."
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

It never ceases to amaze me what utter bullshit you fanboys will invent to support Apple's shenanigans.

You haven't got any data on "average users".

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RE[2]: This isn't new...
by pandronic on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 20:55 in reply to "RE: This isn't new..."
pandronic Member since:
2006-05-18

It's Steve's "special" way of doing things easier and he's not going to change it because it's perfect and you know ... you have to think different, understand a new paradigm and all that shit.

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RE[2]: This isn't new...
by Moredhas on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 22:11 in reply to "RE: This isn't new..."
Moredhas Member since:
2008-04-10

In my experience, as soon as you start talking about file types or formats to an "average" user, they just get angry and confused. There's still plenty of older phones floating around in Australia, and manufacturers used to sometimes use proprietary image formats, or only support a handful (like one phone might like jpegs while another prefers png). Explaining to my painfully stupid customers why they can open some pictures but not others without saying "buy a new phone you cheap bastard, stop using ten year old tech", is almost traumatic.

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RE[3]: This isn't new...
by Thom_Holwerda on Wed 22nd Sep 2010 22:13 in reply to "RE[2]: This isn't new..."
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

In my experience, as soon as you start talking about file types or formats to an "average" user, they just get angry and confused.


and yet, that's exactly what iTunes forces them to think about, since i-devices and iTunes only handle like three formats, making it necessary to have additional applications like VLC with complicated upload procedures.

Now, imagine a simple icon appearing on the desktop. Drop shit on it - no matter the file type - and iOS takes care of where to put it. Third party apps can register which file types they can display, and get access to those file types only. App Store review ensures no shenanigans. No more fiddling about.

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