Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 23rd Sep 2010 20:06 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless So, we have the iPad out and about for a while now, doing its thing, most likely selling well. Of course, others want a piece of that pie as well, so we see tablets pop up all over the place, most of which are either ultra-low budget junk or vapourware (how that's Adam coming along, Notion Ink?). Earlier this year, Steve Ballmer proudly held up HP's Windows 7-powered Slate - but then, HP bought Palm, canned the Slate, promised a webOS tablet, and then resurrected the Slate as an enterprise product. Now we have a video of the Windows 7-powered Slate. Let's compare it to Samsung's detailed overview of its Galaxy Tab, and see ever so clearly why HP canned the darn thing in the first place.
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RE[2]: Wow!
by StephenBeDoper on Thu 23rd Sep 2010 23:33 UTC in reply to "RE: Wow!"
StephenBeDoper
Member since:
2005-07-06

"page turning


Uhm, dude. Page turning wasn't invented by Apple. It was invented about 2000 years ago when the first codex as invented.
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Even the computer-based page flip animation isn't *that* new:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kwqi9HnN17w
(it's around the 1:50 mark)

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RE[3]: Wow!
by mrstep on Fri 24th Sep 2010 02:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow!"
mrstep Member since:
2009-07-18

OK, thanks for the insight Thom, did you know Apple didn't invent the hand either? Not even the hand gesture I'm thinking of right now! ;) They didn't invent the computer, the tablet, the mouse, etc. either, in case anyone out there is wondering.

The BeOS demo is cool too. I don't think the implementation looks that similar to what the touch-based page turning on the iPad looks like, whereas I'd say the Tab/Android version looks remarkably similar to the one on the iPad, from how it curls under your finger to having the back side of the flipped page kind of showing through what's on the front side. And when the guy in the demo touched a book and it zoomed in/open, it looks just like the iBooks book opening animation. I'm not saying Apple came up with zooms animations either, before anyone gets concerned.

To be clear, I'm not arguing for patents on this type of stuff, just saying it's very flattering to Apple to suddenly have everyone working hard to try to make it look and work the same way. Given the interface, hardware, and function being implemented you will end up with similar solutions, but that's just amazing coincidence to happen to have the 'print though' effect and a number of other similarities independently right after your competitor comes out with the apps, particularly given the traditional lack of polish like that from other companies. You'd probably expect different results if asking 2 artists to paint the same landscape too.

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RE[4]: Wow!
by StephenBeDoper on Fri 24th Sep 2010 18:41 in reply to "RE[3]: Wow!"
StephenBeDoper Member since:
2005-07-06

The BeOS demo is cool too. I don't think the implementation looks that similar to what the touch-based page turning on the iPad looks like,


The fundamental concepts are identical - simulation of a page flipping by mapping a 2d surface onto a 3d object.

To be clear, I'm not arguing for patents on this type of stuff, just saying it's very flattering to Apple to suddenly have everyone working hard to try to make it look and work the same way.


True, and by the same token, companies like Calameo and Issuu are probably both flattered that Apple has followed their lead with the iPad's ebook UI.

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RE[3]: Wow!
by phoenix on Fri 24th Sep 2010 21:51 in reply to "RE[2]: Wow!"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

It's been available for 2 decades already; nothing new.

My sister's storybooks on CD-ROM included page turning animations ... on Windows 3.1, back in the 80s. These were even interactive stories (Mercer Meyer and Berenstein Bears) where you could interact with the characters, not just flip pages.

The fact that people are hung up on page animations just boggles my mind. It's true that those who ignore the past are doomed to repeat it as if it were new. ;)

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