Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 21st Sep 2010 21:32 UTC, submitted by diegocg
After many months of designing, coding, reviewing, testing and documenting, Qt 4.7.0 is finally ready for the big time. Although it's a little more than nine months since Qt's last feature release (4.6.0 on December 1, 2009), the seeds of some of the new stuff in 4.7 were sown much earlier. Indeed, many of the ideas behind the biggest new feature in Qt 4.7.0, Qt Quick, were born more than two years ago, not long after Qt 4.4 was released
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RE[5]: Wow! Qt has become so bloated...time for a new lib...
by siride on Fri 24th Sep 2010 14:58
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Member since:2006-01-02
"If you're so dead set against using tools why don't you program in assembler?
I use tools, but I don't want to use more tools than what is actually required. The MOC is not really necessary in order to have signals and slots: any other signals and slots system does not use an external tool. "
MOC really is required for Qt, so you have to use it. End of story. Just deal with it. I mean, what are you gaining by taking this ridiculous stance about MOC? It's not that hard. It costs pretty much nothing. It's fairly automatic if you use any type of build system at all. Stop bitching about something that almost nobody else cares about and just get your job done. Really isn't that hard. People like you make me weep for the programming community.
"Is there any Decent and modern gui toolkit that does not use external tools to create boilerplate code?
Nope. That's what I said. "
A lot of other toolkits actually do use autogenerated code. Some Java frameworks do it. .NET does it. It makes things easier because you can avoid the tedium of building your GUI in pure code.
As I said in another comment, if C++ had proper reflection, MOC wouldn't be needed. Yet another reason why C++ is actually a poor language for building GUIs (among other things).
RE[6]: Wow! Qt has become so bloated...time for a new lib...
by axilmar on Fri 24th Sep 2010 15:33
in reply to "RE[5]: Wow! Qt has become so bloated...time for a new lib..."
Member since:2006-03-20
MOC really is required for Qt, so you have to use it. End of story. Just deal with it.
Nope, sorry, the attritude of 'just deal with it' is not acceptable for me.
I mean, what are you gaining by taking this ridiculous stance about MOC? It's not that hard. It costs pretty much nothing. It's fairly automatic if you use any type of build system at all. Stop bitching about something that almost nobody else cares about and just get your job done. Really isn't that hard. People like you make me weep for the programming community.
I guess you never had to manually setup the MOC for each file you created, because there was no support for the MOC in the IDE of your choice. It happened to me, in the context of the project at work, and it was not pretty.
RE[6]: Wow! Qt has become so bloated...time for a new lib...
by nt_jerkface on Fri 24th Sep 2010 16:40
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RE[5]: Wow! Qt has become so bloated...time for a new lib...
by _txf_ on Fri 24th Sep 2010 16:07
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Member since:2008-03-17
Possibly what I should have added:
Is there any other way to automatically create boilerplate code short of creating a new language (that probably will do so behind the scenes anyway)?
That is unless you're a masochist that enjoys writing boilerplate code just to keep purity in the language (of which c++ isn't already)?
Personally I prefer to make applications quickly instead of writing reams of code that are exact copies of that produced by machines. My time is pretty valuable to me.
Edited 2010-09-24 16:11 UTC
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Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/18/13 7:37 UTC
"In NixOS, the entire operating system - the kernel, applications, system packages, configuration files, and so on - is built by the Nix package manager from a description in a purely functional build language. The fact that it's purely functional essentially means that building a new configuration cannot overwrite previous configurations. Most of the other features follow from this." Interesting approach. A Linux distribution, sure, but with some very refreshing ideas about system configuration.
Linked by fran on 05/18/13 1:38 UTC
Google added, among other features, C/C++ support to its new version of AIDE. From Android-IDE, "Now you can write parts of your app or your whole app in C/C++ on your device. AIDE supports the Standard Android NDK toolchain (GCC 4.6 + Bionic, STL, ...). No changes are necessary if you want to build an app developed on a PC with Eclipse. C/C++ development is fully integrated: Build errors appear in the error list and files can easily be navigated to with Go to file. The editor supports C/C++ syntax highlighting."
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/17/13 23:35 UTC, submitted by kragil
Ars nails it: "The answer is that Google did announce what amounts to a fairly substantial Android update yesterday. They simply did it without adding to the update fragmentation problems that continue to plague the platform. By focusing on these changes and not the apparently-waiting-in-the-wings update to the core software, Google is showing us one of the ways in which it's trying to fix the update problem."
Linked by MOS6510 on 05/17/13 22:22 UTC
"It is good for programmers to understand what goes on inside a processor. The CPU is at the heart of our career. What goes on inside the CPU? How long does it take for one instruction to run? What does it mean when a new CPU has a 12-stage pipeline, or 18-stage pipeline, or even a 'deep' 31-stage pipeline? Programs generally treat the CPU as a black box. Instructions go into the box in order, instructions come out of the box in order, and some processing magic happens inside. As a programmer, it is useful to learn what happens inside the box. This is especially true if you will be working on tasks like program optimization. If you don't know what is going on inside the CPU, how can you optimize for it? This article is about what goes on inside the x86 processor's deep pipeline."
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/17/13 22:15 UTC, submitted by Tom
"It was the only moment I heard regret slip into Otellini's voice during the several hours of conversations I had with him. 'The lesson I took away from that was, while we like to speak with data around here, so many times in my career I've ended up making decisions with my gut, and I should have followed my gut,' he said. 'My gut told me to say yes.'" The world would've been a much different place - Apple would have been less dependant on Samsung for its chips, which probably would've meant less money for Samsung to develop its Galaxy business.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/16/13 21:41 UTC
Glass is getting some love at Google I/O as well. New applications have been released - Facebook, Twitter, Evernote, Elle, Tumblr, and CNN. Perhaps more interesting: the newly announced Google Glass Developer Kit will allow offline applications and direct hardware access - great for hacking and expanding Glass' potential. This kit will really allow hackers to put Glass through its paces.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/16/13 17:04 UTC
"But Beck and Merrill decided that simply banning toxic players wasn't an acceptable solution for their game. Riot Games began experimenting with more constructive modes of player management through a formal player behavior initiative that actually conducts controlled experiments on its player base to see what helps reduce bad behavior. The results of that initiative have been shared at a lecture at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology and on panels at the Penny Arcade Expo East and the Game Developers Conference." Absolutely fascinating stuff. I'm a League of Legends player, and to be honest, the community isn't nearly as bad as some make it out to be. I'm happy Riot games has the guts to employ science to address the issue.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/16/13 13:17 UTC
"Android and iOS, the number one and number two ranked smartphone operating systems worldwide, combined for 92.3% of all smartphone shipments during the first quarter of 2013 as Windows Phone crept past BlackBerry for 3rd place. According to the International Data Corporation Worldwide Quarterly Mobile Phone Tracker, Android smartphone vendors and Apple shipped a total of 199.5 million units worldwide during 1Q13, up 59.1% from the 125.4 million units shipped during 1Q12." Windows Phone doubles from a few to twice few, iOS loser market share as its growth is slower than that of the overall market. BlackBerry continues slide into irrelevance.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/16/13 12:06 UTC
"According to the latest research from our Wireless Smartphone Strategies service, global Android smartphone profits reached US$5 billion in total during the first quarter of 2013. Samsung dominated and captured an impressive 95 percent share of all Android smartphone profits." Wow.
Linked by Thom Holwerda on 05/15/13 23:03 UTC
"During its Keynote today, Google announced new features coming to its flagship search function - you know, that thing we all started using Google for. VP Amit Singhal spent some time discussing what Google's search functionality will eventually morph into. Google's strategy is summarized by three words: answer, converse, and anticipate. Singhal explained that many of the pieces of these upcoming changes can already be seen in products that Google has recently introduced - namely, Google Knowledge Graph and Google Now, with perhaps a splash of Google Glass, too." I hold on to my hat every time Google changes Search. It's such a vital product in my daily life.More News »
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I use tools, but I don't want to use more tools than what is actually required. The MOC is not really necessary in order to have signals and slots: any other signals and slots system does not use an external tool.
Nope. That's what I said.