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RE[8]: Latest results: FF4 goes past Safari for x86 v8bench
by lemur2 on Sun 26th Sep 2010 22:57
in reply to "RE[7]: Latest results: FF4 goes past Safari for x86 v8bench"
Mozilla are being dishonest by creating a new benchmark, Kraken, which is specifically tweaked to be fast in their new JS engine.
Sheesh! Give it up already.
You see, about Kraken, it is not actually tweaked to favour Firefox, it is specifically made to include the kind of scripts that would typically be run by browsers. But you may not believe that, even though it is true ... so Mozilla developers don't push any claim using it.
Show me a website where the Mozilla developers publish results from running Kraken, and conclude that Firefox is faster. There is your challenge ... you won't be able to meet it. There is no such site and no such claim coming from Mozilla.
The arewefastyet.com website of the Mozilla developers explicitly runs Apple's sunspider benchmark, and Google's v8bench benchmark. They explicitly state that Firefox javascript development version is not yet as fast as Safari's or Chrome's latest devlopment javascript engines.
So ... in comparison, apples for apples, holding Chrome and Safari to the same standard: where are the sites in which Safari's developers or Chrome's developers run the Kraken benchmark and conclude that the new Firefox javascript engine has passed them by?
Answer me that, sunshine.
Edited 2010-09-26 23:03 UTC
RE[9]: Latest results: FF4 goes past Safari for x86 v8bench
by PresentIt on Mon 27th Sep 2010 07:06
in reply to "RE[8]: Latest results: FF4 goes past Safari for x86 v8bench"
You see, about Kraken, it is not actually tweaked to favour Firefox, it is specifically made to include the kind of scripts that would typically be run by browsers.
Claims Mozilla. And it just "happens" to be tweaked specifically for Firefox 4. Fail.
Show me a website where the Mozilla developers publish results from running Kraken, and conclude that Firefox is faster.
Huh? They officially announced it, and bragged about how amazingly "real" it is compared to everything else.
The arewefastyet.com website of the Mozilla developers explicitly runs Apple's sunspider benchmark, and Google's v8bench benchmark. They explicitly state that Firefox javascript development version is not yet as fast as Safari's or Chrome's latest devlopment javascript engines.
But then their marketing figured that, hey, we can make our own, and be faster even though we aren't! Firefox is still slower at Sunspider, rememember. So when they realized they were too slow, they simply made their own where Firefox is fast.
Dishonesty.





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Mozilla are being dishonest by creating a new benchmark, Kraken, which is specifically tweaked to be fast in their new JS engine.
All the benchmarks claim to reflect the real world. There's nothing special about that.