Linked by David Adams on Tue 28th Sep 2010 21:58 UTC
Fedora Core The Fedora 14 Beta was released today, but as a Network World article points out, it "will be the first Red Hat supported distribution to let users choose MeeGo as their desktop." This new release will also include the Sugar interface, intended for netbooks, and "will also be the first version to fully incorporate Red Hat's VDI (virtual desktop infrastructure), called SPICE, or Simple Protocol for Independent Computing Environments. SPICE will allow Fedora to host virtual desktops that can be accessed over a network."
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RE: Comment by Radio
by boulabiar on Wed 29th Sep 2010 00:11 UTC in reply to "Comment by Radio"
boulabiar
Member since:
2009-04-18

That's true.
UI of most opensource tools sucks.

Just look at Gimp, they have accepted to change the UI only later. (And everybody is still waiting for the next version with 1 window)

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RE[2]: Comment by Radio
by Neolander on Wed 29th Sep 2010 06:15 in reply to "RE: Comment by Radio"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

That's true.
UI of most opensource tools sucks.

Just look at Gimp, they have accepted to change the UI only later. (And everybody is still waiting for the next version with 1 window)

If you're trying to find elements of photoshop's workflow in an UI that's not photoshop's, that UI surely sucks ;)

What I mean is that this judgement of GIMP's UI is highly subjective. When you're experimented with it and get the basic workflow, you understand how powerful it is. Flexibility, discoverability, readability, quick access to a lot of functionality, pen tablet friendly widgets, much better curve editing... These are all good sides of the GIMP UI.

I think that like most people who unilaterally hate gimp's UI, you do it for the same reason as I hate Photoshop's : not being used to it.

Edited 2010-09-29 06:17 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by Radio
by No it isnt on Wed 29th Sep 2010 09:49 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Radio"
No it isnt Member since:
2005-11-14

Correct. People whining about Gimp not being MDI, etc., really should whine about their own inability to learn. It's a much more serious problem.

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RE[3]: Comment by Radio
by Radio on Wed 29th Sep 2010 10:40 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Radio"
Radio Member since:
2009-06-20

The question is not to imitate photoshop or not. Quit that line of thinking. Design & ergonomy are NOT completely subjective: these are fields that have been under heavy research for decades. Clutter is bad, wasting space is bad, etc. Have a look at this blog post:
http://humanized.com/weblog/2007/10/05/make_oss_humane/

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RE[3]: Comment by Radio
by boulabiar on Wed 29th Sep 2010 11:27 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Radio"
boulabiar Member since:
2009-04-18

As a person who uses Gimp to do my basic image manipulations, I get messed many times with losing the focus of the tool window.
If it is a single window, I never got this problem.

Do you have any scientific studies approving that gimp UI (or similar) is better than photoshop one ?
(Adobe has many research centers, so I don't think they like providing their users crappy UIs)

Look at Inkscape, it has a very very usable UI. You can't lose focus on what you are doing anytime.

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RE[3]: Comment by Radio
by WereCatf on Wed 29th Sep 2010 14:30 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Radio"
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

I think that like most people who unilaterally hate gimp's UI, you do it for the same reason as I hate Photoshop's : not being used to it.

Just to stick a note here, I am one of those people who are used to GIMP's UI, not having used Photoshop ever, yet I still absolutely hate how GIMP looks and behaves. It just is a horrible mess.

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