Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Sep 2010 19:07 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
QNX When Research In Motion unveiled its BlackBerry Playbook tablet on Monday, including the new QNX-based operating system it runs, I already speculated that it would probably make its way onto RIM's smartphones as well. RIM has now confirmed this suspicion.
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RE[2]: The triumph of UNIX
by kaiwai on Thu 30th Sep 2010 10:06 UTC in reply to "RE: The triumph of UNIX"
kaiwai
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2005-07-06

QNX based on Linux ? Are you sure of that ?

Otherwise I agree, Unix has grown very big lately. Funny, considering that it was initially built with very different needs than the modern desktop and mobile computers in mind.


Where did he say that QNX is based on Linux? in his post he said that Linux was a implementation of UNIX but that doesn't mean it is UNIX. QNX used to be marketed as 'Quick UNIX' until they were told that they couldn't continue calling it any longer since it didn't pay the fee to call itself a UNIX (Mac OS X can since it has paid and passes the Single UNIX Specification 2003 (SUS2003) recently).

What Mac OS X shows is if you have the funds and the focus you can make a good desktop operating system off *NIX - the problem is that what is required to create something that spans over the open x86 desktop market. You someone who can provide leadership and a group of investors willing to provide long term funding for something that might take at least 2-3 years before it see's the light of day and maybe another 3-5 years before it is profitable thus able to provide at least 8-10 years worth of funding which I don't see happening any time soon.

Edited 2010-09-30 10:07 UTC

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RE[3]: The triumph of UNIX
by Neolander on Thu 30th Sep 2010 10:20 in reply to "RE[2]: The triumph of UNIX"
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2010-03-08

Where did he say that QNX is based on Linux? in his post he said that Linux was a implementation of UNIX but that doesn't mean it is UNIX. QNX used to be marketed as 'Quick UNIX' until they were told that they couldn't continue calling it any longer since it didn't pay the fee to call itself a UNIX (Mac OS X can since it has paid and passes the Single UNIX Specification 2003 (SUS2003) recently).

"(...) Android and MeeGo and even Bada are based on Linux as are QNX and WebOS"

What Mac OS X shows is if you have the funds and the focus you can make a good desktop operating system off *NIX - the problem is that what is required to create something that spans over the open x86 desktop market. You someone who can provide leadership and a group of investors willing to provide long term funding for something that might take at least 2-3 years before it see's the light of day and maybe another 3-5 years before it is profitable thus able to provide at least 8-10 years worth of funding which I don't see happening any time soon.

Maybe an alternate option is a hobby dev with a vision who somehow manages to lead a team of enthusiasts, in which case it takes even more time but still is possible.

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RE[4]: The triumph of UNIX
by kaiwai on Thu 30th Sep 2010 10:48 in reply to "RE[3]: The triumph of UNIX"
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2005-07-06

"(...) Android and MeeGo and even Bada are based on Linux as are QNX and WebOS"


Thanks for the correction - there is this horrible trendy I see these days of people equating Linux to UNIX that they are being used interchangeably by people without the slightest understanding that one doesn't mean the other. I even see people claim that Mac OS X is based on Linux! everytime I see such posts I die a little inside.

Maybe an alternate option is a hobby dev with a vision who somehow manages to lead a team of enthusiasts, in which case it takes even more time but still is possible.


True which kinda goes back to SkyOS and how personally I would have preferred to see him use a *BSD core of some sort then create a custom interface, display server and so forth on top so that the value can be added by not being 'yet another *NIX for the desktop'. I wish I had the development skills because that would be the first thing I'd do - take the FreeBSD core, build on a new display server and interface then develop it from there.

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RE[3]: The triumph of UNIX
by aliquis on Fri 1st Oct 2010 02:36 in reply to "RE[2]: The triumph of UNIX"
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2005-07-23

Where did he say that QNX is based on Linux?
"but Android and MeeGo and even Bada are based on Linux as are QNX and WebOS."

I also reacted to it.

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