Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 29th Sep 2010 19:07 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
QNX When Research In Motion unveiled its BlackBerry Playbook tablet on Monday, including the new QNX-based operating system it runs, I already speculated that it would probably make its way onto RIM's smartphones as well. RIM has now confirmed this suspicion.
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RE[4]: The triumph of UNIX
by kaiwai on Thu 30th Sep 2010 10:48 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: The triumph of UNIX"
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"(...) Android and MeeGo and even Bada are based on Linux as are QNX and WebOS"

Thanks for the correction - there is this horrible trendy I see these days of people equating Linux to UNIX that they are being used interchangeably by people without the slightest understanding that one doesn't mean the other. I even see people claim that Mac OS X is based on Linux! everytime I see such posts I die a little inside.

Maybe an alternate option is a hobby dev with a vision who somehow manages to lead a team of enthusiasts, in which case it takes even more time but still is possible.

True which kinda goes back to SkyOS and how personally I would have preferred to see him use a *BSD core of some sort then create a custom interface, display server and so forth on top so that the value can be added by not being 'yet another *NIX for the desktop'. I wish I had the development skills because that would be the first thing I'd do - take the FreeBSD core, build on a new display server and interface then develop it from there.

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RE[5]: The triumph of UNIX
by Thom_Holwerda on Thu 30th Sep 2010 10:52 in reply to "RE[4]: The triumph of UNIX"
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The first thing I'd do in building any desktop operating system (if I had the skills) was to use QNX as a base. Fully transparent distributed computing, a true microkernel (none of that monolithic crap), a super-efficient and tiny (in all senses of the word) fully accelerated display server, self-healing and self-recovery in all layers and components of the system...

It's a piece of genius. Nothing comes even CLOSE - certainly not hodgepodges like Windows, Linux, and Mac OS X.

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RE[6]: The triumph of UNIX
by moondevil on Thu 30th Sep 2010 11:01 in reply to "RE[5]: The triumph of UNIX"
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They have lots of nice optimizations in place to allow quick communication between kernel modules.

I imagine that QNX is the only successful micro-kernel OS out there.

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RE[6]: The triumph of UNIX
by -pekr- on Thu 30th Sep 2010 12:20 in reply to "RE[5]: The triumph of UNIX"
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Yes, where would AmigaOS be nowadays, if Gateway did not screw the deal with QNX in 1998 :-( ... it would simply be power of QNX and brand power of Amiga (still good sounding brand back in 1998).

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RE[6]: The triumph of UNIX
by JeffS on Thu 30th Sep 2010 15:48 in reply to "RE[5]: The triumph of UNIX"
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Isn't QNX a major player in the embedded space (machinery, aerospace, etc, where there is zero fault tolerance) as well?

And yes, QNX and Symbian are two great examples of highly successful micro kernel OS's. Also, MacOS and iOS are based on the Mach micro kernel, and employ at least partial micro kernel design.

People often think that since Linux won over the failed (so far) Hurd project, and that Minix was only an academic OS, that the debate between monolithic kernels and micro kernels was over, and monolithic won.

But obviously that is not the case. Both have been successful.

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