Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 1st Oct 2010 21:08 UTC
General Development Anyone who did not see this one coming after Microsoft's patent deal with HTC and Apple's meticulousness in avoiding Windows Mobile in its suit against HTC hasn't been paying attention. Microsoft has filed a patent complaint with the US International Trade Commission, as well as a patent lawsuit in the US District Court for the Western District of Washington against Motorola over its Android-based devices.
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RE: Where are those idiots...
by Symgeosis on Sun 3rd Oct 2010 00:02 UTC in reply to "Where are those idiots..."
Symgeosis
Member since:
2005-09-13

Where are all those Mono zealots who tries to convince everyone that we're living in la la land and that Microsoft is open source company? De Icaza, I am looking at you!

I think Wikipedia put it best when they said "citation needed."

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gnufreex Member since:
2010-05-06

Oh, you are now saying that nobody said such thing?

Google for just about any Mono thread on just about any forum, you will see a Mono crowd praising Microsoft for their "openess" and attacking anyone who say one bad thing for Mono. FFS, just open thread about Mono on any forum, and you will get jumped by bunch of Microsoft/Novell shills or fanboys, who will call you an extremist if you don't praise mono and agree with them that is best thing since slice bread. If you go over few forums, you will find out that those are same people (same nicks) on every forum. It is not like people like Mono, just there is a devoted little group who are very skilled at astroturfing.

If that is not enough to you, what about Microsoft Alpha-shill Miguel De Icaza calling Google to switch from Java to Mono? OSNews reported on that, and if google listened to De Icaza, Microsoft would now have more things to sue over. Is that citation enough?

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lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Oh, you are now saying that nobody said such thing?

Google for just about any Mono thread on just about any forum, you will see a Mono crowd praising Microsoft for their "openess" and attacking anyone who say one bad thing for Mono. FFS, just open thread about Mono on any forum, and you will get jumped by bunch of Microsoft/Novell shills or fanboys, who will call you an extremist if you don't praise mono and agree with them that is best thing since slice bread. If you go over few forums, you will find out that those are same people (same nicks) on every forum. It is not like people like Mono, just there is a devoted little group who are very skilled at astroturfing.

If that is not enough to you, what about Microsoft Alpha-shill Miguel De Icaza calling Google to switch from Java to Mono? OSNews reported on that, and if google listened to De Icaza, Microsoft would now have more things to sue over. Is that citation enough?


Well, it may be that Microsoft are trying send a message to Google via Motorola: either use our tech (for example: as embodied in OOXML, Mono/.NET and Moonlight/Silverlight) and pay us our dues (royalties) ... or we will sue your customers (Motorola), for using your software not ours, and frighten them all away.

http://planet.gnu.org/gnutelephony/?p=10

What I think people fail to appreciate is that Microsoft does not seek the elimination of software patents but only to further limit the possibility of suffering spectacular losses at the end of such cases. This is because they understand well their most effective strategy is not in actually winning large judgments in patent cases against others, but rather simply in being able to financially exhaust others that they choose to sue. Hence, they wish to have an environment that is for them “safer to sue”.


Let us be very, very clear here ... there is no Microsoft software on a Motorola phone.

Microsoft are sue Motorola for exactly that "offense".

In a normal world, Microsoft aren't even a part of this picture ... Microsoft has no contract here, Motorola's phones have nothing to do with Microsoft.

Edited 2010-10-03 10:57 UTC

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Symgeosis Member since:
2005-09-13

Oh, you are now saying that nobody said such thing...you will see a Mono crowd praising Microsoft for their "openess"


And you aren't answering my point. Where has De Icaza ever made a claim that Microsoft is an "open-source company"? You also seem to be mistaking "openness" for "open-source" which would be inaccurate. One could certainly argue that C# is open but that Microsoft is not an open-source company.

Edited 2010-10-03 21:52 UTC

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