Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 5th Oct 2010 14:25 UTC
Windows With the release of Windows Phone 7 upon us, the hype machine now goes all the way up to 11. While hype machines are generally relatively harmless and easy to poke a hole through, coordinated FUD campaigns by patent trolls are not. After Apple and Microsoft trolled HTC, and Microsoft now trolling Motorola, the actual FUD campaign against Android is in full swing.
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RE: Weeell
by JeffS on Tue 5th Oct 2010 16:02 UTC in reply to "Weeell"
JeffS
Member since:
2005-07-12

The patents in question have already been paid for by Google.

Microsoft is double-dipping.

It worked easily with HTC, because they decided that it was less expensive to acquiesce rather than fight (besides, they're already fighting Apple).

Microsoft tried to get licensing from Motorola in the same manner, expecting them to crumble to the extortion racket. But Motorola said "screw you, we'll see you in court".

Thing is, Motorola is a huge company with a big patent arsenal of it's own. And again, Google should, and probably will eventually, come out swinging in this whole manner.

Also, there is still Nokia, who are currently suing Apple for patents on cellular technology. Nokia might jump in and sue Microsoft as well.

Yes, what a mess.

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RE[2]: Weeell
by eriwik on Tue 5th Oct 2010 16:15 in reply to "RE: Weeell"
eriwik Member since:
2009-07-31

Even if Google paid for the patents from MS it does not mean that they paid enough to let every handset maker on the market use the patents. Remember that Google themselves created a phone, the Nexus One, which probably required them to pay.

Similar arangements are quite common, and I belived that for example ARM chip makers get a way without paying much (or at all) to ARM while those that uses the CPUs have to pay quite a bit.

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RE[2]: Weeell
by aliquis on Tue 5th Oct 2010 16:23 in reply to "RE: Weeell"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

While I do understand Nokia probably got _something_ to sue Microsoft for, an the other way around, because that's how the stupid US patent system works.

But exactly what are you thinking of?

Software for network access? I would assume most of Nokias patents in the area would be of hardware and/or maybe "methods" and maybe hence a problem more for manufacturers of various chips/networking equipment and maybe handsets?

In other news, the Nokia N8 camera is awesome. Said to be 1/1.83" sensor against the said to be 1/3.2" in iPhone4. Cameras like the Ixus 130 got 1/2.3" so still smaller than the N8. You have to step up to the Powershot S95 to get a similar sensor and then the camera cost as much as the phone.. Now if only it ran MeeGo =P

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RE[2]: Weeell
by vaette on Tue 5th Oct 2010 17:33 in reply to "RE: Weeell"
vaette Member since:
2008-08-09

I really need some kind of documentation of Google paying for the patents, because even if they have, surely any license will very precisely state what happens when another party uses the software. The idea that Microsoft sold a license and then turned around to sue licencees just sounds stupid and silly for them to do, it is poor PR and then they immediately get smacked down.

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