Linked by addoula on Tue 5th Oct 2010 22:02 UTC
Since the launch of Opera 10.5 in March 2010, I've been using it as my primary browser, whether at work or at home.
Using Ubuntu at work, and a Windows netbook at home, I wanted a fast browser for my netbook and a coherent browsing experience on both operating systems. And this is where Opera 10.5 (and newer) fits perfectly.
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RE[2]: Been using Opera since late 90s
by Fergy on Wed 6th Oct 2010 12:08
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RE[3]: Been using Opera since late 90s
by vodoomoth on Wed 6th Oct 2010 14:20
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Opera has presented its browser as a wonderful browser for web developers (which I am no longer). Just like Chrome does and just like Microsoft did with its ludicrous browsers features comparison chart.
Moreover, there have been many changes to the cache manager in the new breed after Opera 9.27. If they were willing to implement an obfuscated naming scheme for items in the cache, why not provide an individual button in each line of the items listing?
I am sure there's no need to be a developer before wanting to delete an item from a repository. We do that for cookies, we do that for the wand (aka "Password Manager" as of one of the latest versions), why not for the cache? With this feature, I'm marking Opera with my "Perfection" stamp. Anyway, the odds of me needing that are lower in my current position.
RE[2]: Been using Opera since late 90s
by PresentIt on Wed 6th Oct 2010 18:58
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The thing that could have been interesting to discuss is why Opera hasn't been popular despite the speed, the numerous good ideas, the small size compared to the features and, above anything else for me, the customization possibilities.
What makes you say that it hasn't been popular? It has more than 100 million users worldwide, and has a massive market share in many countries. Maybe not in Western Europe and the US, but look at countries like Russia, etc. Opera is one of the top 2-3 browsers there.
So to claim that Opera "hasn't been popular" based on a narrow view on the West is a fallacy.
I will take a wild guess here and say that their not listening to user requests
That is demonstrably false. They constantly do stuff based on direct feedback. Now, maybe your personal pet wishes haven't been granted, but that doesn't mean that they aren't listening. It just means that your wish isn't popular enough or important enough.
or instance, we've been waiting (and I asked for it) for years for a Delete button in the opera:cache page.
Wow, that must be one of the most useless requests I've heard in a long time. Just because they didn't grant you your personal wish, an obscure setting somewhere, doesn't mean that they aren't listening.
"Listening" does not involve bending to every single user's whim.
RE[3]: Been using Opera since late 90s
by vodoomoth on Wed 6th Oct 2010 20:45
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Did you understand the cache thing was an example, right?
And despite what you who told just the sentence before, you write "Wow, that must be one of the most useless requests I've heard in a long time"?
Have you ever experienced what I was talking about? Have you read my other posts on this very news item?
Thanks for your wisdom and for the enlightenment. Be well.
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Totally agree. I could have written exactly that, except the IE thing: I only use Firefox for compatibility issues. I just can't live without the side panel, the tab bar wrapping in multiple lines and the customization.
The thing that could have been interesting to discuss is why Opera hasn't been popular despite the speed, the numerous good ideas, the small size compared to the features and, above anything else for me, the customization possibilities.
I will take a wild guess here and say that their not listening to user requests, despite the "Desktop wish-list" section in the forums, has a part in it. So many times, browsing through the forums in general and that section in particular, I've had the feeling that they just don't listen. Nor do they explain choices or how they plan priorities. For instance, we've been waiting (and I asked for it) for years for a Delete button in the opera:cache page. How useful is the cache if you need to empty it just to test something you are developing? If it's not high on your priorities, a simple reason/justification may be enough for people to be patient. Or give an extension framework, or let someone contribute the stupid 20-line Javascript code that will fix the issue. Some will say users should not dictate priorities but I think good communication with the user community is essential but they are probably not the only ones to have some wet clay in their ears.