Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 7th Oct 2010 19:10 UTC, submitted by tyrione
General Development LLVM 2.8 has been released. The release notes describe this new, ehm, release in greater detail, so head on over and give it a read.
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RE[2]: Software Patents ?
by elsewhere on Sat 9th Oct 2010 18:49 UTC in reply to "RE: Software Patents ?"
elsewhere
Member since:
2005-07-13

"This is very dangerous as the licence isn't GPLv3 and doesn't protect users from being sued.


Please stop this nonsense about end-users being sued. End-users can not be sued for patent infringements in products they are using, I can not be sued for patent infringements in my TV, the one who will be sued is the manufacturer of the TV.
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The scope of patent law isn't restricted to manufacturers, it covers any use of the invention. So end users could very well be sued. You could very well be blocked from using a device you designed and built yourself for personal use, if it infringed an existing patent.

This is the reason the major software vendors have to include legal indemnity for IP as part of their license agreement. It would be fairly tough selling software into the fortune 500s if you didn't, as there would be too much potential liability for them otherwise.

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RE[3]: Software Patents ?
by Soulbender on Sun 10th Oct 2010 02:15 in reply to "RE[2]: Software Patents ?"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

You could very well be blocked from using a device you designed and built yourself for personal use, if it infringed an existing patent.


Keywords being designed and built. Not purchased and used.

This is the reason the major software vendors have to include legal indemnity for IP as part of their license agreement. It would be fairly tough selling software into the fortune 500s if you didn't, as there would be too much potential liability for them otherwise.


So then, tell me why no other industry provides this to their end-users? Maybe it's because other industries are mature and not headed by morons?
Maybe they understand that if you put this into practice the whole capitalist system would collapse because consumers wouldn't dare purchase any products?
Does consumers in the U.S really have such a weak position that they have to fear being sued for patent infringements they could not possible know exist?
What happened to the free market that is supposed to spur innovation?

Edited 2010-10-10 02:19 UTC

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RE[3]: Software Patents ?
by raboof on Sun 10th Oct 2010 10:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Software Patents ?"
raboof Member since:
2005-07-24

The scope of patent law isn't restricted to manufacturers, it covers any use of the invention. So end users could very well be sued.


Depends on the country you're in: in the Netherlands, patent protection only applies to using the invention 'in or for a company' (rijksoctrooiwet 1910 art 30), not to purely personal use.

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