Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 12th Oct 2010 21:52 UTC
Java "Oracle and IBM today announced that the companies will collaborate to allow developers and customers to build and innovate based on existing Java investments and the OpenJDK reference implementation. Specifically, the companies will collaborate in the OpenJDK community to develop the leading open source Java environment."
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Bill Shooter of Bul
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I can't always write from everyone's perspective, so I try to stick to my own. I know less about running a company than I do about what makes life easier, more enjoyable and more productive for developers not working for sun. As the other commenter noted, its easy to criticize a failed business and point at a move we disagree with and blame it for the failure.

I'd suspect ( with the previous cavat that I know very little about business), that much like in medicine some treatments will cure a man with one disease that would kill a man with another. But that hardly means the treatment is wrong for every patient.

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nt_jerkface Member since:

Money can be made from open source, Red Hat is the obvious example.

However Red Hat has a clear and working business model which is sell corporate support.

Schwartz didn't know how they would make money by open sourcing OpenOffice or how the company would recoup the 1 billion dollar purchase of MySql. Most software cannot be sold using the support model and Schwartz admitted that he didn't have a business model that supported his actions.

The guy was a douchebag that walked away with millions while a lot of people lost their jobs. Don't defend his incompetence just because he open sourced a lot of software.

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Moochman Member since:

I agree that buying MySQL and VirtualBox was rash, and really can't be explained in the context of a business plan--because the rather obvious purpose of those moves was to garner more interest in a Sun buyout. If you realize this, then it becomes clear that the purchasing streak was a smart move--assuming you supported the idea of Sun being bought out, that is.

I unfortunately was not a big supporter of the idea, and for me it was this change in strategy (starting with the MySQL buyout) which marked Schwartz's downturn as a leader. However, it is important to realize that this is not the same thing as "not having a business plan". Schwartz had a business plan the entire time--first, open-sourcing everything and making money off the hardware and the support, and then doing everything possible to get bought out by a bigger company. If he had just stuck with the first plan, I actually think Sun could have still succeeded... but sadly, it's impossible to say now.

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