Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Oct 2010 17:26 UTC
Apple In this day and age of iOS this and iPad that you'd nearly forget it, but the gadget maker from Cupertino actually makes personal computers and an accompanying operating system as well. It's been nearly three years since the last substantial release, so it's about time: Apple has just announced a press event titled 'Back to Mac', with a lion on the invite.
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RE: Comment by drcouzelis
by mrAmiga500 on Wed 13th Oct 2010 18:59 UTC in reply to "Comment by drcouzelis"
mrAmiga500
Member since:
2009-03-20

In regards to hardware, maybe they will do something super duper crazy, like they did by not including a floppy drive in the past, and not include a disc drive on the Apple desktop computers.


You mean optical disc? I think you still need CD/DVD - for music and movies. I'd like to see no hard drives. They're hot, slow, bulky and unreliable. Storage should be solid state.

Regarding software: One thing that is long overdue is the ability to rip DVDs and put them in a playlist. You should be able to store all your movies and play them when you want - without having to search for a DVD and worry about if it's going to jerk and skip because it's scratched or dirty. You should be able to select a movie in the playlist and it plays instantly - no menu or stupid FBI warning or other BS that you can't skip through.

Of course, this will never happen. The movie industry want to force you to watch stuff you can't skip through and they want the physical media to get scratched so you have to buy it again. (and of course, Apple want you to buy movies through iTunes)

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RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis
by arpan on Wed 13th Oct 2010 19:27 in reply to "RE: Comment by drcouzelis"
arpan Member since:
2006-07-30

I'd rather they ditch the Optical disc. I rarely use it, and would rather have an external drive for the few times I need to use it.

That would allow them to have 2 HDs. One would a SSD for speed, and the second could a standard HD for all the storage requirements required.

Or two HDs in RAID config etc!

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RE[3]: Comment by drcouzelis
by mrAmiga500 on Wed 13th Oct 2010 19:42 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis"
mrAmiga500 Member since:
2009-03-20

It would be nice to ditch the optical disc (I hate optical discs), but only if they offered a cheap matching external optical drive. (are Apple optional extras ever cheap?) If you've already got an external optical drive, you don't need it, but it should be available if you don't.

I don't use optical discs often either, but I don't have an external optical drive and I still buy Compact Discs and DVDs.

Edited 2010-10-13 19:43 UTC

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RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis
by Neolander on Wed 13th Oct 2010 19:42 in reply to "RE: Comment by drcouzelis"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I'd like to see no hard drives. They're hot, slow, bulky and unreliable. Storage should be solid state.

Unreliable ? I'm genuinely curious about this claim : have SSD finally got past mechanical hard drives in terms of reliability ?

Because yes, I know, no mechanical parts and everything, but every storage medium lasting more than 30 years which I know of (paper, clay, marble, tapes, optical disks if stored with extreme care, records, MiniDisc) requires mechanical parts somewhere in the writing or reading process.

In the specific case of SSD, last time I heard about them, they had some serious issues : sudden death by cremation after a few months in a way that's similar to early low-end USB pen drives was still common, and the ones who did survive had an issue that only let them issue a very limited number of writes per NAND chip, requiring complex algorithms at the OS level to make them live reasonably long (like the strange filesystem of the EEEPC 701). Are these now fixed ?

Edited 2010-10-13 19:46 UTC

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RE[3]: Comment by drcouzelis
by jackeebleu on Wed 13th Oct 2010 20:54 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis"
jackeebleu Member since:
2006-01-26

Using an OCZ Vertex Turbo for more than a year and still slick as snot! NO cremation here!

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RE[3]: Comment by drcouzelis
by nt_jerkface on Wed 13th Oct 2010 22:32 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

There are have been numerous SSD drives that had higher than average fail rates.

I put my SSD on ebay after being unimpressed with the speed boost. With Win7 and Vista common programs are already cached to the memory and cold boots are rare. I felt much safer after putting my Scorpio blue back in. I've seen 5400 RPM drives go 10 years and the power draw isn't much different.

So yea SSDs are overrated for typical use. A 5400RPM Scorpio can read at over 50mb/sec. They are not the same drives that laptops came with 5 years ago.

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RE[3]: Comment by drcouzelis
by Phloptical on Wed 13th Oct 2010 23:35 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis"
Phloptical Member since:
2006-10-10

If you get more than 5 or 6 years out a platter-based hard drive, you're doing good....and lucky.

Solid state is where it's at, and where it needs to go. And they need to leave the SATA interface behind, or seriously pump the limit past the theoretical and into the nominal.

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RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis
by WorknMan on Wed 13th Oct 2010 20:40 in reply to "RE: Comment by drcouzelis"
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2005-11-13

Regarding software: One thing that is long overdue is the ability to rip DVDs and put them in a playlist. You should be able to store all your movies and play them when you want...

Of course, this will never happen.


There's already tons of software for ripping DVDs. (I use DVDFab on Windows - I'm sure Macs have something similar available.) Of course, this will never come bundled with the OS, for obvious reasons. (It's technically illegal, at least in the US.)

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RE[3]: Comment by drcouzelis
by jackeebleu on Wed 13th Oct 2010 20:55 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis"
jackeebleu Member since:
2006-01-26

Handbrake, open source, fast, easy, runs on OS X

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