Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Oct 2010 17:26 UTC
Apple In this day and age of iOS this and iPad that you'd nearly forget it, but the gadget maker from Cupertino actually makes personal computers and an accompanying operating system as well. It's been nearly three years since the last substantial release, so it's about time: Apple has just announced a press event titled 'Back to Mac', with a lion on the invite.
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RE[3]: Comment by drcouzelis
by Phloptical on Wed 13th Oct 2010 23:35 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by drcouzelis"
Phloptical
Member since:
2006-10-10

If you get more than 5 or 6 years out a platter-based hard drive, you're doing good....and lucky.

Solid state is where it's at, and where it needs to go. And they need to leave the SATA interface behind, or seriously pump the limit past the theoretical and into the nominal.

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RE[4]: Comment by drcouzelis
by nt_jerkface on Thu 14th Oct 2010 00:21 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by drcouzelis"
nt_jerkface Member since:
2009-08-26

5 years isn't abnormal for a brand name 5400RPM drive.

There are after all 7200RPM server hard drives that have a 5 year warranty.

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RE[5]: Comment by drcouzelis
by helf on Thu 14th Oct 2010 00:42 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by drcouzelis"
helf Member since:
2005-07-06

Yeah, I really don't get the spindle hate. I have an SSD boot drive just because the lack of appreciative seek delay is so nice, but I also still have a massive HDD raid-5 for storage. I've rarely had a spindled drive go bad.

I know all the hdd failure horror stories, and I've had to replace my fair share of /other peoples/ drives, but its almost always caused by poorly ventilated cases with the drives being cakes in dust. Or they were deathstars :p

I have 15+ year old drives working fine. My IBM XT has its original 20mb hdd still that runs like new. We just, in the past year, started having hdd failures in out IBM netvistas at work that I have been replacing this year anyways. They all had IBM Deathstar drives and the machines are 10-11 years old.

I definitely do NOT trust all these "eco" and "green" drives... because spinning up and down constantly is a good idea *rolls eyes*

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RE[4]: Comment by drcouzelis
by aliquis on Thu 14th Oct 2010 01:00 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by drcouzelis"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

So far I haven't had any HDD crash on me.

Sisters laptop did though, after getting dropped onto the table.

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BluenoseJake Member since:
2005-08-11

I've had plenty of drives, and I mean plenty, that have lasted more than 10 years. it's easily in the dozens. Hard drives aren't that fragile. I have 80G drives around here that I bought in 2003, ticking right along, I have given away dozens of machines with old 40s and 60s and 100s as boot drives that are still going strong.

I guess what I'm trying to say is, that 5 or 6 years is not unrealistic.

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RE[4]: Comment by drcouzelis
by Neolander on Thu 14th Oct 2010 05:20 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by drcouzelis"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

If you get more than 5 or 6 years out a platter-based hard drive, you're doing good....and lucky.

Solid state is where it's at, and where it needs to go. And they need to leave the SATA interface behind, or seriously pump the limit past the theoretical and into the nominal.

There's something missing here : for a good lifetime comparison, you need to specify the lifetime of the two compared elements. Again, apart the mechanical part thing (which is not yet proven right), I've yet to see an argument about why SSDs should last longer.

Though maybe affordable SSDs are a bit young for having good statistical data about that already.

Also, all the hard drives I've owned until now have lasted more than 5 years. The latest one started to fail episodically after 6 years of heavy use. The old one in the Amstrad PC1512 of my youth still works after more than 15 years, but well... It's not been used for some times.

Edited 2010-10-14 05:26 UTC

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