Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Oct 2010 17:26 UTC
Apple In this day and age of iOS this and iPad that you'd nearly forget it, but the gadget maker from Cupertino actually makes personal computers and an accompanying operating system as well. It's been nearly three years since the last substantial release, so it's about time: Apple has just announced a press event titled 'Back to Mac', with a lion on the invite.
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Comment by henderson101
by henderson101 on Thu 14th Oct 2010 09:58 UTC
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I do hope we'll see a serious overhaul of the UI, as it's gotten a bit stale.

Oh!? Just when Microsoft were perfecting their clone, you want to change the goal posts? I've been using Windows 7 for about 2 or 3 months now - it seriously wants to be Aqua in feel (if not look.)

I would also die for a decent file manager, as the Finder is still incredibly cumbersome, even after all these years, even after all these complaints from all over the web.

Finder - seriously, is my favourite file manager of all time, save the later Tracker versions in BeOS. I admit, I came through OpenStep, so I was so, so happy to see the column view in Finder. The old Finder, from OS 9 and earlier was AWFUL to use. Windows Explorer - HATE! The first thing I do in XP is turn on "Classic" look and close the idiotic tree view. I'd far rather have two windows than use the tree view. The column view is the ultimate extension of two windows.

It'd be nice for Apple to also take this opportunity to cease being a hypocrite by finally moving everything over to Cocoa

Thom - you are not a software engineer, by admission. Let's put this in to perspective - I have a book written in Chinese, you need to translate it in to Dutch on your own. Okay - you could do that. Now, imagine I then said, that I had other 10 books after that one was finished.. some were in Chinese, some were in Japanese, and one was in Bulgarian. Sure, with infinite resources, you could do them all. It's not trivial though. It's not going to be a 5 minute job now, is it? If it was a case of changing a few scripts and recompiling, I think that would have happened by now. Cocoa and Carbon are about as close in nature as Chinese is to Dutch. The only thing they have in common is that they are both ultimately using C in some way (Carbon is written in C, Cocoa is mostly written in Objective-C, with some C elements.) Can I suggest you do a little research before making sweeping statements?

I'm still waiting for Microsoft to produce Office in .Net or even any large non developer apps. The only major app I use regularly that they've written in .Net is SQL Server Management Studio. It's all very easy for a layman to whine about these things, but practically speaking, you need to consider all of the implications. Before you hard on about "Adobe" and "Microsoft" and Cocoa, yes, Photoshop is not a trivial app, but it's far less trivial that an operating system. Generally, the quality of OS X (as in QA and testing) out performs Adobe and Microsoft's Mac products by volumes.

including iTunes. I can has non-crappy music player plskthnxbi?

I don't know what you do to your systems, but I run iTunes on Mac and Windows EVERY day and have never had any issues, not for years. Back in the iTunes 7 era, there were a few hiccups, but that was so long ago I dont even remember what they were. I'm actually running iTunes as I type this.. zero issues. My system is only a Core 2 duo, 2.2GHz, it's not "new" and it's not pimped out or anything. I think you're making a big deal about it because you have personally don't like the model iTunes uses. I don't share this, I'm not alone.

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RE: Comment by henderson101
by _txf_ on Thu 14th Oct 2010 13:28 in reply to "Comment by henderson101"
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Itunes is not an operating system. Also it is a far simpler program than photoshop.

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henderson101 Member since:

Itunes is not an operating system. Also it is a far simpler program than photoshop.

Since when is iTunes the entirety OS X? You, sir, are an idiot. Thom, at least, was speaking of OS X in general. But, hey, what do I know, right? I've only done the exact "porting" exercise in question for a commercial product, so yeah it's all really simple stuff. Like banging square plugs in to round holes easy.

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tylerdurden Member since:

Uh? What?

Seriously, sometimes I feel the IQ dissipate when I visit these forums.

I am still trying to figure out how Thom's measures time, given that 10.6 came in 2009. Maybe he lives in the future and it is already 2012 in his part of the world?

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