Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Oct 2010 17:26 UTC
Apple In this day and age of iOS this and iPad that you'd nearly forget it, but the gadget maker from Cupertino actually makes personal computers and an accompanying operating system as well. It's been nearly three years since the last substantial release, so it's about time: Apple has just announced a press event titled 'Back to Mac', with a lion on the invite.
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RE[2]: Comment by henderson101
by henderson101 on Thu 14th Oct 2010 13:34 UTC in reply to "RE: Comment by henderson101"
henderson101
Member since:
2006-05-30

Itunes is not an operating system. Also it is a far simpler program than photoshop.


Since when is iTunes the entirety OS X? You, sir, are an idiot. Thom, at least, was speaking of OS X in general. But, hey, what do I know, right? I've only done the exact "porting" exercise in question for a commercial product, so yeah it's all really simple stuff. Like banging square plugs in to round holes easy.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Square plugs and round holes ? Reminds me of something about those who are crazy enough to think they can change the world... A long time ago...

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RE[3]: Comment by henderson101
by _txf_ on Fri 15th Oct 2010 00:53 in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by henderson101"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Clearly you missed the point of my Statement. Let an Idiot spell it out for you:

You said that porting an operating system is not trivial, that is true (despite the fact that cocoa only applies to UI frameworks) .

I said Itunes is not an operating system, therefore far easier to port. What is stopping apple from doing so?

Adobe managed to port photoshop extremely quickly and yet Apple failed to do so on finder 'till snow leopard (finder isn't an operating system, merely the desktop shell).

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

I see several possible explanations :
1/Apple doesn't care much about OSX anymore, now that they can see how much of a bigger cash cow iPods and iOS devices are. I'll see how right this is at this event.
2/They tried to distort the role of iTunes so horribly that they more or less reproduced Microsoft's move to integrate their web browser everywhere : in OSX, iTunes could have a much larger role internally than we can see, and be linked to a shitload of system libs, many of which have nothing to do with music, which makes porting it to another toolkit a nightmare.

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henderson101 Member since:
2006-05-30

Clearly you missed the point of my Statement. Let an Idiot spell it out for you:

You said that porting an operating system is not trivial, that is true (despite the fact that cocoa only applies to UI frameworks).


Have you ever ported a Carbon app to Cocoa? It would be harder than porting an app written in Win32 API C (straight C, calling the Win32 API directly) to C# using WinForms.

I said Itunes is not an operating system, therefore far easier to port. What is stopping apple from doing so?


What does iTunes have to do with porting all Carbon elements of OS X to Cocoa? iTunes is NOT an integral part of OS X, unless you had not noticed.

Adobe managed to port photoshop extremely quickly and yet Apple failed to do so on finder 'till snow leopard (finder isn't an operating system, merely the desktop shell).


No, no they didn't. It took them almost 10 years.

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