Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 13th Oct 2010 17:26 UTC
Apple In this day and age of iOS this and iPad that you'd nearly forget it, but the gadget maker from Cupertino actually makes personal computers and an accompanying operating system as well. It's been nearly three years since the last substantial release, so it's about time: Apple has just announced a press event titled 'Back to Mac', with a lion on the invite.
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RE[4]: Comment by henderson101
by henderson101 on Fri 15th Oct 2010 11:05 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by henderson101"
henderson101
Member since:
2006-05-30

Clearly you missed the point of my Statement. Let an Idiot spell it out for you:

You said that porting an operating system is not trivial, that is true (despite the fact that cocoa only applies to UI frameworks).


Have you ever ported a Carbon app to Cocoa? It would be harder than porting an app written in Win32 API C (straight C, calling the Win32 API directly) to C# using WinForms.

I said Itunes is not an operating system, therefore far easier to port. What is stopping apple from doing so?


What does iTunes have to do with porting all Carbon elements of OS X to Cocoa? iTunes is NOT an integral part of OS X, unless you had not noticed.

Adobe managed to port photoshop extremely quickly and yet Apple failed to do so on finder 'till snow leopard (finder isn't an operating system, merely the desktop shell).


No, no they didn't. It took them almost 10 years.

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RE[5]: Comment by henderson101
by _txf_ on Fri 15th Oct 2010 11:33 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by henderson101"
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2008-03-17

What does iTunes have to do with porting all Carbon elements of OS X to Cocoa? iTunes is NOT an integral part of OS X, unless you had not noticed.


Then porting Itunes should be easier. I'm not saying it is easy but I doubt it is comparable to photoshop. We get version after version of Itunes that is carbon based, I bet itunes 11 will still be carbon. They keep adding features to itunes; features that are adding to the "porting tax" if they ever move to cocoa.

See what happened with QTX. It is modern but completely devoid of features (compared to QT7), simply because they couldn't develop the features in time due to the cruftiness and complexity of the QT codebase.

There aren't that many carbon apps left. But Itunes is a prime example of an app that could benefit from cocoa. It isn't a piece of framework but it is part of OSX.

No, no they didn't. It took them almost 10 years.


Adobe did the majority its porting development between versions. It took them 10 years because they were coasting on carbon and originally apple promised them that it would be maintained. They dropped it because apple is dropping further development of carbon.

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