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KDE In his lengthy and interesting blog post covering the future of Plasma, KDE's Aaron Seigo proposes Qt Quick and QML (a declarative language that embeds JavaScript) as replacement of the Graphics View architecture currently used by Plasma. This holds a promise of massive speedups and cheap effects as all paint operations become candidates for OpenGL acceleration, contrary to the aging Graphics View architecture that is still stuck with various inefficiencies caused by the underlying QPainter approach. Expressiveness and easy programmability of QML is a nice bonus, of course.
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RE[7]: Just admit it...
by DeadFishMan on Fri 15th Oct 2010 16:01 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Just admit it..."
DeadFishMan
Member since:
2006-01-09

I am not sure we're talking about the same thing here. The way I see it, there are mainly two high profile writers out there that judge KDE fairly on their reviews, giving brownie points when it gets something right and calling the developers on it when it gets something wrong. These are Joe Brockmeier and Bruce Byfield.

Byfield's reviews tend to be as neutral as possible to the point that it becomes annoying to read them sometimes, but they are usually fair, pretty balanced and reasonably accurate even though one can easily spot faults here and there every now and then. Brockmeier was formerly community manager or some such for OpenSUSE which is, by most accounts, a KDE-centric distro so he might have a little bias there but his articles related to both GNOME and KDE and its applications look reasonably fair to me, for what it is worth.

Most other reviewers and columnists appear to evaluate KDE based on what they can get from Kubuntu or Ubuntu with the kubuntu-desktop meta package which, frankly, sets the bar pretty low. It is not a big secret that KDE is not exactly loved over there in *buntu waters and it shows. Even smaller profile distros such as SimplyMEPIS can claim to be a lot better than any of the *buntus as far as KDE is concerned.

Heck, recently I engaged on an online discussion on someone's blog because he/she was claiming the upcoming GNOME Shell Activities as the pinnacle of usability and a revolution on the desktop "when it arrives" especially when compared to previous iterations of KDE's Activities disregarding completely the fact that Activities were completely revamped on KDE SC 4.5 and that the ground breaking work that the KDE developers did when taking the plunge and going ahead with their plans to implement said Activities back when KDE 4.0 came out despite the shitload of crap that was thrown on them for daring to do so did draw a blueprint for GNOME developers to know where are the usability pitfalls, what to do and what not to do when working on theirs!

It is somewhat ironic that KDE SC 4.5 actually offers something closer to a traditional desktop with taskbar on the bottom, menu launchers, (optionally) icons on the desktop for those that want it even though Plasma does offer many of the same advantages of other composited desktops and many of its own while retaining the familiar work flow whereas GNOME Shell will be much more of departure of the classic GNOME DE when it arrives.

Like Lemur said above, it is not unusual at all to find articles evaluating GNOME and its related tools and correctly finding that they leave something to be desired when compared to proprietary alternatives available on Linux and elsewhere and completely disregarding KDE and its applications which does make some of us wonder why is that so.

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RE[8]: Just admit it...
by WereCatf on Fri 15th Oct 2010 16:49 in reply to "RE[7]: Just admit it..."
WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

correctly finding that they leave something to be desired

Uhh, it's an opinion. Not everyone has the same tastes and thus claiming that people are correct by default whenever they say there is something to be desired from GNOME or GNOME applications.

Like e.g. I have still not found a single KDE application that I'd prefer over GTK+/GNOME ones. I still don't go around claiming KDE is inferior or something, it just doesn't suit me, personally.

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RE[9]: Just admit it...
by DeadFishMan on Fri 15th Oct 2010 17:32 in reply to "RE[8]: Just admit it..."
DeadFishMan Member since:
2006-01-09

Sorry, it sounded a lot harsher than I intended. What I meant to say is that in some cases, the criticism of some GNOME applications or the desktop per se might be somewhat valid but it is weird that some people leave it at that, as if the alternative was not worth mentioning as in the aforementioned case of comparison between Evince and XPDF and the omission of Okular. That's all.

I certainly don't want to imply that GNOME/GTK applications are inferior by default - in fact, I am a heavy user of certain GTK apps even on Windows - and apologize if that was the impression that I gave.

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