Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 15th Oct 2010 20:54 UTC
Apple Is it an indication of Steve Jobs' (in)famous strive for perfection, or just stupid bone-headedness? The white variant of the iPhone 4 was first delayed for a few weeks, but those few weeks became 'end of the year'. Now we know why: the manufacturers Apple employs are apparently having issues matching the shades of white of the various components. This anecdote ties in nicely with a very interesting interview with John Sculley about Steve Jobs' ways of doing business.
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RE[6]: Hmmm
by Neolander on Sun 17th Oct 2010 20:37 UTC in reply to "RE[5]: Hmmm"
Neolander
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2010-03-08

(Target disk mode means you can boot any Mac in a 'disk mode' where it behaves like an external drive to other macs. Very useful in various circumstances e. g. when moving to new HW or in support situations)

That's just a crappy Mac workaround to replace an ability PC users have had for ages : take the HDD out of the computer with no skills and only a screw driver.

And you are satisfied with the given? Engineering is not about selling the same piece of HW 1'000'000 times. It's about pushing further. With the "it's standard" attitude we would have been stuck with CP/M and 8bit CPUs.

Yeah, I'm satisfied with the current PC market as far as hardware is concerned. Good enough for me, except for the weight/hardness (I'd love to see a computer as light and flexible as a sheet of paper) and those horrible LCD screens that just need to die and be replaced by OLED as quickly as possible.

My main gripes with computers nowadays are in software. Same for most people. There's a lot to fix in there.

I really like vendors that are able to disrupt the 'standards' market with new innovations - that do real HW engineering and not only throw together the cheapest 'standards' parts. That try to improve customer experience and not just brag with useless spec lists.

I think it's that line of thinking that led that engineering failure that shiny LCD screens are to become so widespread. The will to make something new.

And why has it become a standard feature? (see my point now)

I wish it hadn't. I dislike it when I have to buy things I don't need together with things I need.

Edited 2010-10-17 20:40 UTC

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RE[7]: Hmmm
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 17th Oct 2010 22:51 in reply to "RE[6]: Hmmm"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

That's just a crappy Mac workaround to replace an ability PC users have had for ages : take the HDD out of the computer with no skills and only a screw driver.


Win.

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RE[8]: Hmmm
by apoclypse on Mon 18th Oct 2010 02:42 in reply to "RE[7]: Hmmm"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

"That's just a crappy Mac workaround to replace an ability PC users have had for ages : take the HDD out of the computer with no skills and only a screw driver.


Win.
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No, lose. What the hell is a user with no skill supposed to do with an internal hard drive? Unless the user has a usb to ide/sata adaptor the hard drive is useless to them. Target disk mode allows for the user to use another mac to grab their files without having to do anything but boot their machine while holding "t".

Doesn't matter anyway as I don't think target disk mode works with anything but Firewire, so those Macs without FW can't use it as far as I know, I may be wrong.

Anyway, Sculley said something interesting in that interview. He said that Sony should have had the iPod. Sony was an innovative design force once. However as they got bigger, they lost the ability to turn on a dime. They couldn't make an innovative product without stepping on some manager's and his group's toes. Instead Sony was taking trying to lock in users with things like the minidiscs and other proprietary formats. My guess is that content arm of Sony was getting in the way of the engineering arm. Since Jobs has final say on everything and he keeps his teams small, he can move far more quickly. Sony needs to go back to that formula though at this point its too late. The thing the Jobs admired the most, the manufacturing am of Sony has been outsourced like everything else. I guess Apple is in the same boat on that front.

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RE[8]: Hmmm
by hankheathen on Mon 18th Oct 2010 04:29 in reply to "RE[7]: Hmmm"
hankheathen Member since:
2009-05-13

LOL - Only Thom could count that ridiculous response as a 'Win' :-D

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RE[7]: Hmmm
by r_a_trip on Mon 18th Oct 2010 11:53 in reply to "RE[6]: Hmmm"
r_a_trip Member since:
2005-07-06

That's just a crappy Mac workaround to replace an ability PC users have had for ages : take the HDD out of the computer with no skills and only a screw driver.

Sorry to butt in, but taking out the harddrive to troubleshoot? We Linux users have had the ability to boot a Live-CD on the affected machine for years and do what we need to do on the drive in place and copy stuff to an external USB drive if necessary.

Work around or not, the ability to mount a Mac as an external drive on another Mac sounds nifty. It sure beats disassembling the machine to get at the disk/data. Pulling apart a machine should be a last resort, not par of the course.

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