Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 15th Oct 2010 20:54 UTC
Apple Is it an indication of Steve Jobs' (in)famous strive for perfection, or just stupid bone-headedness? The white variant of the iPhone 4 was first delayed for a few weeks, but those few weeks became 'end of the year'. Now we know why: the manufacturers Apple employs are apparently having issues matching the shades of white of the various components. This anecdote ties in nicely with a very interesting interview with John Sculley about Steve Jobs' ways of doing business.
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RE[7]: Hmmm
by Thom_Holwerda on Sun 17th Oct 2010 22:51 UTC in reply to "RE[6]: Hmmm"
Thom_Holwerda
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2005-06-29

That's just a crappy Mac workaround to replace an ability PC users have had for ages : take the HDD out of the computer with no skills and only a screw driver.


Win.

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RE[8]: Hmmm
by apoclypse on Mon 18th Oct 2010 02:42 in reply to "RE[7]: Hmmm"
apoclypse Member since:
2007-02-17

"That's just a crappy Mac workaround to replace an ability PC users have had for ages : take the HDD out of the computer with no skills and only a screw driver.


Win.
"

No, lose. What the hell is a user with no skill supposed to do with an internal hard drive? Unless the user has a usb to ide/sata adaptor the hard drive is useless to them. Target disk mode allows for the user to use another mac to grab their files without having to do anything but boot their machine while holding "t".

Doesn't matter anyway as I don't think target disk mode works with anything but Firewire, so those Macs without FW can't use it as far as I know, I may be wrong.

Anyway, Sculley said something interesting in that interview. He said that Sony should have had the iPod. Sony was an innovative design force once. However as they got bigger, they lost the ability to turn on a dime. They couldn't make an innovative product without stepping on some manager's and his group's toes. Instead Sony was taking trying to lock in users with things like the minidiscs and other proprietary formats. My guess is that content arm of Sony was getting in the way of the engineering arm. Since Jobs has final say on everything and he keeps his teams small, he can move far more quickly. Sony needs to go back to that formula though at this point its too late. The thing the Jobs admired the most, the manufacturing am of Sony has been outsourced like everything else. I guess Apple is in the same boat on that front.

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RE[9]: Hmmm
by Neolander on Mon 18th Oct 2010 05:28 in reply to "RE[8]: Hmmm"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

No, lose. What the hell is a user with no skill supposed to do with an internal hard drive? Unless the user has a usb to ide/sata adaptor the hard drive is useless to them. Target disk mode allows for the user to use another mac to grab their files without having to do anything but boot their machine while holding "t".

A user with no skill would not know about the t key anyway. If the computer is broken, he handles it to a professional. That professional would then internally sigh "ah, crap, a mac". If the computer works well enough that target disk mode is functional, he would have to keep two computers on his desk (and know about the t key too), and find that FireWire cable that he didn't use for years somewher in a drawer. If the computer doesn't work, which is the most probable case, he would still have to take the disk apart and put it in another computer. It would just be made more difficult by Apple.

On the other hand, have you ever heard about that PC thing called eSata ? You know, the ability to plug an internal HDD on your computer just as if it was an external HDD... That is, in my opinion, something which *actually* helps support.

Anyway, Sculley said something interesting in that interview. He said that Sony should have had the iPod. Sony was an innovative design force once. However as they got bigger, they lost the ability to turn on a dime. They couldn't make an innovative product without stepping on some manager's and his group's toes. Instead Sony was taking trying to lock in users with things like the minidiscs and other proprietary formats. My guess is that content arm of Sony was getting in the way of the engineering arm. Since Jobs has final say on everything and he keeps his teams small, he can move far more quickly. Sony needs to go back to that formula though at this point its too late. The thing the Jobs admired the most, the manufacturing am of Sony has been outsourced like everything else. I guess Apple is in the same boat on that front.

Actually, I think Jobs has managed to be Sony in that respect. iTunes, appStore-only devices... This reminds me so much of SonicStage !
Though I must credit for Apple for one thing in that area : at least, in the intended use case, their software works. Whereas for sony, the fact that the product is artificially crippled after completion is clearly visible through something which fails miserably in the middle of an otherwise very good product.

Edited 2010-10-18 05:45 UTC

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RE[8]: Hmmm
by hankheathen on Mon 18th Oct 2010 04:29 in reply to "RE[7]: Hmmm"
hankheathen Member since:
2009-05-13

LOL - Only Thom could count that ridiculous response as a 'Win' :-D

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