Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Oct 2010 16:00 UTC
In the News An interesting discussion is currently raging through the world of computing, or more accurately, through the world of bloggers and analysts. It basically comes down to this: should the iPad be included in laptop and desktop sales figures? If it is included - Apple becomes the largest PC manufacturer in the United States. But, if the iPad should be included - why not the modern smartphone?
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Because
by Soulbender on Mon 18th Oct 2010 16:19 UTC
Soulbender
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2005-08-18

A smart phone is a phone and an iPad isn't?

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RE: Because
by WereCatf on Mon 18th Oct 2010 16:32 in reply to "Because"
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2006-02-15

A smart phone is a phone and an iPad isn't?

So, you're saying that any computer with a modem is a phone?

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RE[2]: Because
by Adurbe on Mon 18th Oct 2010 17:30 in reply to "RE: Because"
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2005-07-06

I would argue a device is based on its primary purpose/use.

A laptop/desktop is a 'p.c.'
A server is a 'server'
An xbox is a games console

Now, all of these can in fact have Exactly the same hardware. So on what basis do we distinguish? We distinguish them on how you USE that hardware/software combination.

An iPhone is a phone first. Everything else is extra to this fact.
iPod touch a music player
An iPad is a PC as its sole purpose is to run apps.

All three run the same OS (more or less) but they are not all used for the same thing.

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RE[2]: Because
by cb88 on Mon 18th Oct 2010 20:34 in reply to "RE: Because"
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2009-04-23

Google. voice and skype say yes they are...

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RE[2]: Because
by Soulbender on Tue 19th Oct 2010 03:53 in reply to "RE: Because"
Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

Uh, no? i'm saying that the iPad is not a phone.

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RE: Because
by Narishma on Mon 18th Oct 2010 16:34 in reply to "Because"
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2005-07-06

The iPod isn't a phone, so we should include it then? Besides, you can use an iPad (or a desktop or laptop while we're at it) to make phone calls.

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RE[2]: Because
by Noctem on Mon 18th Oct 2010 16:45 in reply to "RE: Because"
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2010-06-08

But I can use a headset with a mic and Skype to make calls with my iPod Touch...

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RE[2]: Because
by MattPie on Mon 18th Oct 2010 16:48 in reply to "RE: Because"
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2006-04-18

And, if a future iPad has voice calling (in the traditional mobile sense, not VOIP) does it suddenly become not a PC?

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RE: Because
by kaiwai on Tue 19th Oct 2010 03:11 in reply to "Because"
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2005-07-06

A smart phone is a phone and an iPad isn't?


Then what is the difference between an iPad 3G and a Smart Phone? both of them have a connection to a mobile phone network with the only thing missing is the voice functionality.

If one is going to split off the iPad into its own category then you should do like wise when it comes to netbooks as well. Personally I think the whole segmentation attempts by some is stupid - you'd be better off looking at the demographics of the customers as a basis of whether investment into a particular area in the form of software, hardware or accessories will pay off in the long run. If 35million netbooks are sold but half of them are pirating cheap skates who have no interest in actually spending money on stuff other than a netbook then it gives a distorted image of how many potential customers are versus the total sales. Hence these statistics are meaningless when one considers how they're applied when making decisions.

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