Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 14th Oct 2010 21:23 UTC, submitted by addoula
Opera Software Opera Extensions have been confirmed as a feature of Opera 11. "Extensions in Opera is a way for you to easily add new functionality to your Opera browser experience. Developers can easily create extensions using open standards (HTML5, CSS, JavaScript) and supported APIs. Extensions will be based on the W3C Widget specifications and this is being considered for an Open Standard effort."
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RE[4]: Vimperator
by sorpigal on Tue 19th Oct 2010 12:10 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Vimperator"
sorpigal
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2005-11-02

There's something I don't get. First, given that Chrome (or webkit?) has been praised for its sandboxing of tabs and, IIRC, efforts have been going on to sandbox the execution of programs in Mac OS X (or was it just plugins in Safari?), I thought the sandbox concept was always a good thing.

Sandboxing random web sites is a good idea and harms nothing. The site still functions, it just can't interfere with other sites. Sandboxing extensions is quite different since it's a lot more of a deliberate action to install and use one. An extension is supposed to extend the application and therefore needs as close as possible to full access to the application, not some small piece of it.

Second, how can allowing extensions have the effect of vetoing innovation? Doesn't it rather allow wild ideas to come to life?

Firefox extensions allow wild ideas to come to life because you can, in an extension, literally change any aspect of anything in the browser with almost no limitation whatsoever. To add a feature to Opera or Chrome or Safari and call it "Extensions" but have the feature not provide the same level of access as is available in Firefox is a limitation. So-called 'extensions' might be given a little piece of the browser in which they can operate, but this might not allow whatever radical and innovative idea the author wished to implement.

If your browser's extension cannot change any thing and everything then it's just not an extension as we know them in Firefox.

Edited 2010-10-19 12:11 UTC

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RE[5]: Vimperator
by vodoomoth on Tue 19th Oct 2010 12:55 in reply to "RE[4]: Vimperator"
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2010-03-30

Thanks for the info.

After our exchange about Firefox, I downloaded two extensions, Lazarus and Tab Mix Plus... and indeed, TMP is way beyond what I thought was possible for an "extension". The options window is a marvel with so many options that despite not being a regular Firefox user, I will be making a donation. It offers many possibilities beyond what I've been used to. The only thing I haven't seen, and I didn't particularly look for it either, is the possibility to save sessions/groups of tabs in files so as to switch from one session to the other or open multiple windows each with its own session.

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RE[6]: Vimperator
by sorpigal on Tue 19th Oct 2010 13:25 in reply to "RE[5]: Vimperator"
sorpigal Member since:
2005-11-02

I believe I've seen an extension for that sort of grouping, but the name of it escapes me at the moment. Firefox 4 will probably require those things to be overhauled anyway as their tab management functions are now radically better.

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