Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 19th Oct 2010 21:42 UTC
Talk, Rumors, X Versus Y Steve Jobs' rant against Android, RIM, and 7" tablets couldn't go by unnoticed, of course. We already had the rather dry response from Google's Andy Rubin, but Mountain View isn't the only one who responded. TweetDeck's CEO wasn't particularly pleased by Jobs distorting TweetDeck's story on developing for Android, and now we have RIM's co-CEO Jim Balsillie who slammed Cupertino pretty hard.
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3rdalbum
Member since:
2008-05-26

I simply could not be sure if a) whatever brand of android handset would be upgradable to newer OS's (due to hardware maker or network's resistance)


So you bought an iPhone, where nothing is guaranteed to work on a handset that is not the current or previous model. Dudey, Apple is probably the worst offender when it comes to this.

In order to use the latest iPod, you need the latest iTunes, which requires the latest operating system, which will only run on the latest Macs. Okay, that's a bit of an overstatement, but Jobs himself said that you should only target the latest and previous iPhones - which makes my father's 16-month-old iPhone 3G officially unsupported.

Whereas, with a custom firmware, you can pretty much run Android 2.2 on a 2-year-old HTC Dream.

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Alex Forster Member since:
2005-08-12

1) The only iPhone that's depreciated is the 2G, which is ~four years old. Your father's 3G can run iOS4.

2) All applications are forwards compatible. Expecting applications to also be backwards compatible is insane; that would mean the featureset of the phone could never be improved on.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

1) The only iPhone that's depreciated is the 2G, which is ~four years old. Your father's 3G can run iOS4.

And with how much features disabled exactly ?

I find these discussions about firmware upgrades a bit pointless. Upgrading a firmware is a dangerous task which can break the device if something goes wrong. Not to mention potential performance issues, with iOS4-like market fragmentation as the sole known alternative, and usability ones if the new firmware behaves differently in some way (I've seen a real-life example of this with an iTouch which had been upgraded to iOS 4). Average users just shouldn't have to care about it.

If you were satisfied with the device you bought and if app compatibility is done right, you shouldn't need the upgrade. If you weren't satisfied, you shouldn't have bought the device in the first place.

Now, if you tell me that upgrading the firmware is for geeks only, then I'm okay with that. But geeks have enough knowledge to install a custom FW, and to try to fix the device themselves if they break it.

Edited 2010-10-20 06:11 UTC

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jackeebleu Member since:
2006-01-26

"I simply could not be sure if a) whatever brand of android handset would be upgradable to newer OS's (due to hardware maker or network's resistance)

Whereas, with a custom firmware, you can pretty much run Android 2.2 on a 2-year-old HTC Dream.
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And exactly where does the average village idiot get custom firmware? How does the average village idiot install that huh? The world does not revolve around geeks friend. It's about usability.

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