Linked by Howard Fosdick on Tue 19th Oct 2010 23:23 UTC
Windows In previous OS News articles, I described how mature computers up to ten years oldĀ can be refurbished and made useful. One article identified and evaluated different approaches to refurbishing. This article tells how to performance tune a mature Windows computer to make it serviceable again. I hope it will interest anyone who wants to tune Windows.
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RE[4]: Reformat.
by lucas_maximus on Wed 20th Oct 2010 15:45 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: Reformat."
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"[q]With Linux it is faster to install the OS (no product keys, no hunts for drivers, no lengthy virus database downloads)

Install of Windows 7 took all of 15 minutes on Brother's Athlon 1700+ which has 1.5gb of ram. Didn't need to "hunt" for drivers, they were already installed.

On a newer machine, Windows Vista and 7 will connected to the internet and downloaded the 3rd party drivers I was missing, which is exactly the same thing I had to do in fedora to get my Nvidia Card working.

Installing Microsoft Security Essentials took me about 5 minutes to download and install, another few minutes to update the signatures (which happen in the background so you don't even notice it).

Windows is fine security wise once you have have the Firewall active and the antivirus setup and a decent browser such as chrome. I accept that Internet Explorer has it problems and I don't recommend it.

I am an OpenBSD user, and I like opensource software, but some of what you are saying simply isn't true anymore.

DRM etc really isn't very nice ... but then again it never has really affected me while using Vista or 7.

Installing software is easy in Linux until you have to install something that is not in a repository that you already have ... then you have to install and configure the repository and you have to make sure that it doesn't conflict with your existing ones.

With Windows I google the app, download the installer and run it. Don't have to worry about repositories.

Even with OpenBSD and FreeBSD you don't have to worry about these things ... just set up ports and your url of where packages are and the package manager sorts everything else out.

I find Linux an absolute pain to use, even compared to difficult unix like OS's such as OpenBSD and Solaris.

Such misinformation and misdirection it makes me wonder what in heavens name is the point?

1. This thread is about restoring older machines to reasonable health and performance, it has nothing to do with Windows 7. Windows 7 doesn't run at all on older machines.

2. Don't try to tell me how long it takes to install Windows, anti-malware and a useful set of affordable not-too-resource-demanding desktop applications on an older machine ... it takes ages. I have done it many times, and it is an exceedingly painful and long-winded process compared to a Linux install from a LiveCD on the same machine.

3. One most certainly does have to search for drivers for older machines because the original CDs on which the drivers came is almost never available.

4. Hunting for and downloading installation files from the Internet for is a very hit and miss affair, it takes ages, and it is a very risky business because it may contain trojans. Linux application repositories and package managers are a godsend in comparison, they are exceedingly easy to use with just point-and-click installation of a huge range of software (enormous compared to BSD), and they guarantee no malware.

I could go on, but what is the point? No doubt you will try on more bullsh.. in reply. [/q]

1.) So an athlon 1700+ which is from 7-8 years ago is not an old machine? Runs Windows Vista and now 7 fine. Only Sub 1Ghz machines can't run Vista and 7, and even my ultraportable from 2006 with a 1.2ghz processor runs 7 fine absolutely fine.

2. Installing Microsoft Security Essentials took minutes on a 1.2 ghz laptop. Firefox took a few minutes. Office and other large apps do take a while, but so does Open Office.

3. I have done plenty of cleanups of installs for Windows on older machine, most of the new versions of Windows (this includes Windows Xp Service Pack 2, this is really the older version of windows you should be running on a machine) which has many drivers for most hardware common hardware components. Usually only the video driver needs installing and wireless drivers ... most video cards in the last 10 years are either nvidia, ati or intel ... all have easily identifiable download sites.

4. No it not a hit and miss affair ... if you think it is difficult to download software without malware on you really shouldn't be rebuilding machines. Don't download from torrents, don't download from dodgy looking sites.

Softpedia, CNET etc are now good sources because they scan the files they host for known trojans. Most sites that have files which have malware on will be screaming it is a dodgy website. If someone doesn't know the difference they should have a locked down machine.

Again if you are not sure ... you can scan the file with anti virus before you execute.

If you are talking about machines older than 2001, IMO they should be binned, especially considering how cheap and powerful modern laptops and desktops are.

Unlike you my friend I am not a Zealot ... I use whatever works.

Edited 2010-10-20 15:49 UTC

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