Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Oct 2010 19:02 UTC
Apple So, Apple held its usual autumn press get-together just now, and after a few rather uninspiring ones (to me, at least), they finally managed to blow me away, with the new MacBook Air (especially the 11.6" variant). They also gave a sneak peek at Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, which has... An App Store. An App Store Apple is going to open on Snow Leopard within 90 days.
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Well...
by Neolander on Wed 20th Oct 2010 20:30 UTC
Neolander
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2010-03-08

The experiment is done, and Apple went in the direction I planned. Though they didn't go as extreme as I said right away, probably because it would have resulted in instant user riot.

My prediction : they'll progressively make future macs run iOS, and begin with turning the Macbook Air into a bigger iPad since no one cares about it anyway.

The facts : well, no touchscreen on the Macbook air right now, but that soldered flash memory, together with the non-removable battery introduced some times ago, and the disappearance of optical drive since the beginning of the Air line, clearly shows where future Apple hardware is heading, I think.

But where my previsions are most successful is with this new release of OSX. Let's see : praising the virtues of full screen applications, introducing an App Store, application menu... The only thing we lack is a hardware home button at the bottom of the screen.

This clearly is clearly a transitional release of Mac OS X aiming at a general move of the Mac line to iOS. Anyone arguing the contrary is a blatant and dishonest liar.

I'm still curious to see how many Apple users will buy this and let their main computer gradually become as closed and tightly-controlled as a phone.

Edited 2010-10-20 20:31 UTC

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RE: Well...
by fretinator on Wed 20th Oct 2010 21:00 in reply to "Well..."
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

Anyone arguing the contrary is a blatant and dishonest liar.


It's the honest liars that you really have to watch.

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RE: Well...
by rhavyn on Wed 20th Oct 2010 21:17 in reply to "Well..."
rhavyn Member since:
2005-07-06

The experiment is done, and Apple went in the direction I planned. Though they didn't go as extreme as I said right away, probably because it would have resulted in instant user riot.

My prediction : they'll progressively make future macs run iOS, and begin with turning the Macbook Air into a bigger iPad since no one cares about it anyway.


You are a master prognosticator.

The facts : well, no touchscreen on the Macbook air right now, but that soldered flash memory, together with the non-removable battery introduced some times ago, and the disappearance of optical drive since the beginning of the Air line, clearly shows where future Apple hardware is heading, I think.


My god, those facts are damning. Soldered flash memory, that is clearly connected to the motherboard using some connector, not actually soldered to it. And the disappearance of the optical drive. It completely disappeared, I mean there is no optional "MacBook Air SuperDrive" available on the MacBook Air's Apple Store page. Hell, there isn't even a "DVD or CD Sharing" section on the MacBook Air's tech specs page. Damning facts indeed, it is a dire future for Apple's hardware.

But where my previsions are most successful is with this new release of OSX. Let's see : praising the virtues of full screen applications, introducing an App Store, application menu... The only thing we lack is a hardware home button at the bottom of the screen.

This clearly is clearly a transitional release of Mac OS X aiming at a general move of the Mac line to iOS. Anyone arguing the contrary is a blatant and dishonest liar.


Notorious underhanded deeds. They are just trying to slip this under the radar and trick their users into using iOS like features on OS X. And they are so bold as to publicly say that that's what they're doing! It's almost like a conspiracy: Apple is leading it's users to the slaughterhouse.

I'm still curious to see how many Apple users will buy this and let their main computer gradually become as closed and tightly-controlled as a phone.


I'm curious how many people will read this and actually believe your "facts" section.

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RE[2]: Well...
by Neolander on Thu 21st Oct 2010 05:36 in reply to "RE: Well..."
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

And the disappearance of the optical drive. It completely disappeared, I mean there is no optional "MacBook Air SuperDrive" available on the MacBook Air's Apple Store page. Hell, there isn't even a "DVD or CD Sharing" section on the MacBook Air's tech specs page. Damning facts indeed, it is a dire future for Apple's hardware.

1/The fact you have to go through complex procedures or the purchase of an external hard drive shows pretty well where Apple want to go.
2/Before, they couldn't make the CD completely disappear, since there was no other easy way to buy applications. With this "App Store", however, I bet they will make optical drives in a release or two...

Notorious underhanded deeds. They are just trying to slip this under the radar and trick their users into using iOS like features on OS X. And they are so bold as to publicly say that that's what they're doing! It's almost like a conspiracy: Apple is leading it's users to the slaughterhouse.

Mac is a closed platform. If you don't like something on it, you can do nothing about it (except switching to Big Evil Windows. But it's overcomplicated, crashing all the times and full of virus, isn't it ? That's why you got a mac ten years ago !).

So Apple can do whatever they want with their customers, provided that they go sufficiently slowly that people adapt themselves step after step after ranting a little. If today Apple went "hey, your computer will only run fart apps from now on !", people would have no choice but to leave since it would become useless from a professional point of view. On the other hand, if they go slowly enough that by that time Photoshop Touch and Logic Touch are available...

Your mocking about them hiding the changes is just nonsense. I never said they were hiding themselves. They cannot, and it's not Apple's way of doing things anyway. However, they can distort the truth in the way that user see the worst as beneficial from them. Like by saying "You're getting all of iOS features on OSX ! See, you're not forgotten !" instead of "You're getting iOS on your Mac ! Ha ha ha pwnd you noob, all your computer are belong to us !". That kind of marketting speech is something Apple is really good at.

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RE: Well...
by kristoph on Wed 20th Oct 2010 21:58 in reply to "Well..."
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2006-01-01

Your post was reasonably sound up until ...

I'm still curious to see how many Apple users will buy this and let their main computer gradually become as closed and tightly-controlled as a phone.


Nothing about this computer is in any way closed or tightly controlled any more then the last gen MacBook Air right? Or are you bitching today about some potential future you might not like.

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RE[2]: Well...
by kaiwai on Thu 21st Oct 2010 06:26 in reply to "RE: Well..."
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

Your post was reasonably sound up until ...

I'm still curious to see how many Apple users will buy this and let their main computer gradually become as closed and tightly-controlled as a phone.

Nothing about this computer is in any way closed or tightly controlled any more then the last gen MacBook Air right? Or are you bitching today about some potential future you might not like.


I don't even think it is that; he hates Apple and it is an around about way to attack them by dreaming up some conspiracy theory that has no basis in reality. If Apple gave away $200 cash with every laptop purchased he would claim that Apple was trying to flush the economy with money to raise inflation and crash the value of the US dollar thus Apple is the enemy of the United States.

The cold hard reality is that as the number of Mac's grow the more you'll hear conspiracy theorist crap from the peanut gallery and I simply don't see it changing any time soon.

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RE: Well...
by NeoX on Thu 21st Oct 2010 06:12 in reply to "Well..."
NeoX Member since:
2006-02-19

The experiment is done, and Apple went in the direction I planned.

Wow, you saw that one coming. I had no idea you had so much pull with Apple.

Though they didn't go as extreme as I said right away, probably because it would have resulted in instant user riot.

Ah Man, they must have missed your memo on that one.


The facts : well, no touchscreen on the Macbook air right now, but that soldered flash memory, together with the non-removable battery introduced some times ago, and the disappearance of optical drive since the beginning of the Air line, clearly shows where future Apple hardware is heading, I think.

Wow those are some amazing "facts". Similar to the "fact" that I am indeed the President of the USA. Oh wait that's not a fact.


But where my previsions are most successful is with this new release of OSX. Let's see : praising the virtues of full screen applications, introducing an App Store, application menu... The only thing we lack is a hardware home button at the bottom of the screen.

Oh please, you haven't even seen the fargin OS yet. Steve showed only the App store. We don't even know if the OS in the Demo was indeed Lion. So if you are getting "previsions" about this, then you better get some "prevision" glasses!


This clearly is clearly a transitional release of Mac OS X aiming at a general move of the Mac line to iOS. Anyone arguing the contrary is a blatant and dishonest liar.

a blatant dishonest liar, hah? Wow how can anyone be a liar about something that has not happened and may never happen? How can you be called a liar for what amounts to a personal opinion?

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