Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Oct 2010 19:02 UTC
Apple So, Apple held its usual autumn press get-together just now, and after a few rather uninspiring ones (to me, at least), they finally managed to blow me away, with the new MacBook Air (especially the 11.6" variant). They also gave a sneak peek at Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, which has... An App Store. An App Store Apple is going to open on Snow Leopard within 90 days.
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RE[2]: Emperor Palpatine
by TheGZeus on Wed 20th Oct 2010 21:13 UTC in reply to "RE: Emperor Palpatine"
TheGZeus
Member since:
2010-05-19

You're upset because they provide a restore thumb drive instead of a restore DVD?

I'm upset because it's called a 'system restore drive', as though it's anything special.
With any luck it'll just be their evil software on it, just as though it was on a DVD. Likely it's akin to the reset button I had on my Palm III, which 'restores things to the default'. Considering it's going to be less likely to lose, I think it's likely that most tech support calls will start with "get out your system restore drive..."?

I'd hate to hear what you think of SSDs.

That's either a non-sequitur or a strawman.
I said that the storage is built into the machine. You can't change it. They control it. You can't control it. "If you can't open it, you don't own it."

Apple has had small laptops for decades, are you new here?

Nonsesical argument.
None have been this small. This is a netbook that costs alot of money. Steve Jobs has never had anything good to say about netbooks. He made a netbook. I'm laughing at him.

Is your post a joke? If not I'm concerned that there is some medication that you forgot to take.

Nope. I hate him. He's evil.
If he had his way, only his programmers would understand computers. All the people who use software would would be plebians who look to him for guidance and new 'magical' devices.
He wants you to not know how the computer works.
He wants you to think that only Apple can do these 'magical' things.
He wants you to think Apple can do no wrong.
He wants to crush anyone who even comes close to touching any ground he's gained in these efforts, whether they make any money off it or not.
He pushes for patents on everything, whether or not Apple invented it, and whether or not it's an actual device or some concept with no intrinsic value.

He's evil. He's just not powerful enough yet for enough people to care.
That's how it starts.

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RE[3]: Emperor Palpatine
by rhavyn on Wed 20th Oct 2010 21:26 in reply to "RE[2]: Emperor Palpatine"
rhavyn Member since:
2005-07-06

You're funny.

I'm upset because it's called a 'system restore drive', as though it's anything special.


Those bastards. Instead of a System Restore DVD, they provided a System Restore USB Thumb Drive, that they then evilly shortened to System Restore Drive. Clearly a plot that is aimed directly against you.

With any luck it'll just be their evil software on it, just as though it was on a DVD. Likely it's akin to the reset button I had on my Palm III, which 'restores things to the default'. Considering it's going to be less likely to lose, I think it's likely that most tech support calls will start with "get out your system restore drive..."?


Yes, with any luck the system restore drive will actually restore things to the default. I mean, seeing as that's what it's designed to do. And, did you know if you play a Mac OS X DVD backwards there is a Satanic message on it?

That's either a non-sequitur or a strawman.
I said that the storage is built into the machine. You can't change it. They control it. You can't control it. "If you can't open it, you don't own it."


Not only do they control it, but once you buy one it controls you. It does it by subtly adding subliminal messages to your music in iTunes. So DON'T USE ITUNES!!!!1!

Nonsesical argument.
None have been this small. This is a netbook that costs alot of money. Steve Jobs has never had anything good to say about netbooks. He made a netbook. I'm laughing at him.


I'm beginning to see your logic. I mean, up until now they only provided the big heavy laptops. And Steve Jobs has been consistent, big and heavy is the way to go. That 12" iBook was SOOOO much bigger than this Air, ROLF stupid evil Steve Jobs and his tiny, tiny laptops. Hey, did I mention the OS X DVD backwards trick yet?

Nope. I hate him. He's evil.


You, on the other hand, are clearly a level headed, well grounded individual. I salute you, sir!

He's evil. He's just not powerful enough yet for enough people to care.
That's how it starts.


He also is known to park in the handicapped spot, WITHOUT A PLACARD!!!!!!!

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RE[4]: Emperor Palpatine
by TheGZeus on Thu 21st Oct 2010 01:19 in reply to "RE[3]: Emperor Palpatine"
TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Yes, with any luck the system restore drive will actually restore things to the default. I mean, seeing as that's what it's designed to do. And, did you know if you play a Mac OS X DVD backwards there is a Satanic message on it?

How could I have expected logic and reason from Apple people? Wait, I didn't.
Yes, I'm angry and opinionated. You're docile and cow-eyed.
There's no reason in this day and age for a full default restore to be necessary. If you can boot, and the drive from which you are booting contains the system files, you should be able to repair it without 'restoring'. You should be able to repair it.
The whole idea of 'repair' is beyond Apple users, though. "I got a new one free!" No, you payed for it in the initial price.

Not only do they control it, but once you buy one it controls you. It does it by subtly adding subliminal messages to your music in iTunes. So DON'T USE ITUNES!!!!1!

This has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.
It's just ad-hominem. No reason for me to reply further.


I'm beginning to see your logic. I mean, up until now they only provided the big heavy laptops. And Steve Jobs has been consistent, big and heavy is the way to go. That 12" iBook was SOOOO much bigger than this Air, ROLF stupid evil Steve Jobs and his tiny, tiny laptops. Hey, did I mention the OS X DVD backwards trick yet?

Actually, it is smaller. It's thin, and light, not heavy and relatively tough. The 12" iBook was a subnotebook. This is a netbook. It's underpowered, has SSD storage as the only option, is thin, has no optical drive, and is relatively fragile (and don't give me that 'unibody durability' argument. It's a brittle aluminium alloy that bends and fractures under conditions that plastic would recover from and zinc would shrug at).
It's a netbook. Get over it.

You, on the other hand, are clearly a level headed, well grounded individual. I salute you, sir!

I'm an angry opinionated person. The world needs more angry, opinionated people.
Complacency is what let the far-right take over the US.
"But this is just a computer!" Computers are in everything you own. Your car, every telephone of any kind sold, every TV, probably 1/3 of toys, even greeting cards! I don't want closed software in the eventual voting machines. I want to be able to confirm that they're not fucked-up.
I don't want Apple to control what software I can and cannot use, especially if they don't allow 'duplication of functionality'.
I don't want them in control of _anything_, other than the actual product I can purchase: the hardware.

The fact that you don't understand that handing over control of what is or will be the very centre of your life. The computer has taken over much of what we used to do in multiple ways. Planning, communication, storage of information (when's the last time you saw a photo album of recent events? A home movie on tape? Who keeps a deadtree journal any more?), reading, film/TV... They've all already been or will soon be replaced by the general-purpose computer.
Apples entire business plan and marketing strategy is to make the general-purpose computer go away, and replace it with a walled garden.
I find it funny that most people that decide to go into that garden either don't notice the guards, or don't notice that the guards are looking as closely at the people inside as out...

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RE[4]: Emperor Palpatine
by NeoX on Thu 21st Oct 2010 05:37 in reply to "RE[3]: Emperor Palpatine"
NeoX Member since:
2006-02-19

ROFL!

That response was classic.

I'm upset because it's called a 'system restore drive', as though it's anything special.

How dare Apple be responsible and include a USB drive as a restore disc.
Why couldn't they be like every other level headed PC company and include a partition on the hard drive and a pop-up on your desktop informing you that you need to spend the next eight hours and 200 blank DVDs to create a set of restore discs yourself? Why Apple, Why? Of course they would not even have to give you instructions either. Shame on you, Apple!

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