Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 18th Oct 2010 21:54 UTC
Linux Well, it's been a while since we've opened this particular jar (box is not historically accurate) owned by Pandora. Desktop Linux... Yes, that ever elusive readiness of the desktop that is Linux-powered. Some story on ComputerWorld argues that the desktop Linux dream is dead, and apparently, the story is causing some stir on the web. Well, paint me pink and call me a lightbulb, but of course desktop Linux is dead. However - who gives a flying monkey? Linux is being used by more people than ever!
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An other reason
by reez on Thu 21st Oct 2010 00:35 UTC
reez
Member since:
2006-06-28

An other reason for this statement being somewhat true is that it's still too hard to install.

No, not that the installers are confusing. Using mainly Windows 7 on the desktop I recently decided to have a look on how the Linux world is doing. I have used Linux on Desktop exclusively for more than eight years (even longer aside with XP) until Windows 7 came out. Then I somewhat switched. At least on the real Desktop. My old laptop still is Arch Linux powered, but I don't use it very often lately. It has always been a pretty minimal desktop.

First I tried the latest release of Ubuntu and after trying it a few time, playing with various options I gave up on getting the installer to run. The disc has been okay, but the installer didn't start and the screen turned black. Disappointed, but not being an Ubuntu fanboy anyway I tried some other distros. I got further with some of them, but for some reason they all failed to create a working installation. In all the years and with tons of tested distributions I never had so many problems. In the end I decided to give Gentoo a try and it worked like a charm.

I don't get it. Not even Live CDs could start X. I have done this a year ago and without any problems and the old CD still works. I don't think the problem is usability. I installed Linux on my mums laptop and only configured it once. For years it has been working like a charm. Having just a _very_ basic understanding about how to use a computer she wouldn't be able to use Windows.

You simply can't leave people with something not working. That's the number one reason for switching back to Windows. Also you can't always present them something completely new. This caused people to go back to Windows. It's also why many people still use Windows XP. They are getting used to it.

Not long ago I talked to a friend about how cool it would be if everyone would start from scratch using the, knowledge, but giving the computer world the opportunity to do everything right from the beginning. This is a dramatical shift, but software simply needs to mature. Even if you have a enough manpower with all the people being experienced programmers you can't build software that "just works" in a few weeks. It takes some time to make everything "just work". The newer versions of Windows took ages and many features didn't make, but they have way fewer of those rare cases that cause problems to people that just want to use computers.

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RE: An other reason
by daddio on Thu 21st Oct 2010 23:24 in reply to "An other reason"
daddio Member since:
2007-07-14

Bah!

I don't even like to think about the aggregate hours of my life wasted reinstalling windows on other peoples PC's because they couldn't (a lot of times it was after they tried anyway... teehee)

That reason is a smokescreen for the truth, which is most people couldn't install ANY O.S. on ANY computer.

Hows the level of difficulty install for MacOS X on bare hardware? What? You don't know? Me neither. Move along.

Linux superior driver support makes it easier 9 times out of 10, than Windows. The only exception might be installing on a netbook with no optical media, which is no picnic for windows either.

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RE[2]: An other reason
by UltraZelda64 on Fri 22nd Oct 2010 18:16 in reply to "RE: An other reason"
UltraZelda64 Member since:
2006-12-05

That reason is a smokescreen for the truth, which is most people couldn't install ANY O.S. on ANY computer.

Sure they can. All they have to do is press the any key. ;)

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RE[2]: An other reason
by reez on Fri 22nd Oct 2010 22:54 in reply to "RE: An other reason"
reez Member since:
2006-06-28

Linux superior driver support makes it easier 9 times out of 10, than Windows. The only exception might be installing on a netbook with no optical media, which is no picnic for windows either.

IMO Linux rocks on Netbooks. Don't know why some people seem to have problems in this area. And you are right, sometimes Windows fails too, but still. Even if all OSs have there problems this is a reason for people giving up on Linux.

I always complain (well, actually these complaints never leave my head ;) ) about everyone just writes reviews on how the install went, which isn't really the main thing one cares. I mean what would happen if all those game magazines would just write about how bad or awesome the installers had been. I don't want to attack all reviews. There are good ones too, but that's an other topic anyway.

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