Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Oct 2010 22:22 UTC, submitted by vivainio
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu This is kind of... Well, good news, I suppose? It depends on where you allegiances lie, but it seems like Ubuntu is warming up to the idea of using Qt to develop applications. It's no secret that Qt is a far more advanced development framework than Gtk+, so it only makes sense for Ubuntu - a GNOME/Gtk+ distribution - is looking at it.
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RE[5]: Comment by cmost
by lemur2 on Thu 21st Oct 2010 13:06 UTC in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by cmost"
lemur2
Member since:
2007-02-17

"If Kubuntu has nothing to distinguish it from KDE offerings from Sabayon, Linux Mint, or Mepis (or OpenSuse, PCLinuxOS, Mandriva, Slackware or Knoppix for that matter where KDE is also the default), then how are any of the other offerings "better"?

What the grandparent was saying was that Kubuntu's KDE has little to distinguish it from stock KDE, whereas the other distributions mentioned have added value in the form of defaults, integration, tools, etc.. By comparison Kubuntu KDE is weak.
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But how exactly is it supposed to be weak?

By virtue of using the same OS mix underlying the desktop as Ubuntu, it has the best underlying OS features, such as apt and upstart.

It has the best repositories and the best "additional application" installer.

It has the best community support via Launchpad PPAs.

It has an extensive community-users-cooperative-help forum.

All of these features are provided through Canonical's involvement.

If we are talking about just the configuration settings and the theme out of the box ... all of those are user settings anyway. Just configure it how you would like, it is as easy as pie.

What exactly is wrong with the default settings as provided by the KDE project compared to the default settings as adjusted by other distributions? How does changing the default wallpaper and the default Plasma theme make other distributions supposedly better than Kubuntu?

Is that it? Is that the complaint? That Kubuntu doesn't change the wallpaper and the default Plasma theme away from the KDE defaults?

Let me quote Colonel Quaritch: "You have got to be kidding me!"

Edited 2010-10-21 13:23 UTC

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RE[6]: Comment by cmost
by sorpigal on Thu 21st Oct 2010 20:36 in reply to "RE[5]: Comment by cmost"
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2005-11-02

Try using some nicely integrated KDE distros. There's a lot more to a complete system then "We compiled everything upstream released" and not understanding this is *the* single biggest thing holding back desktop Linux.

Go ahead, tell me it's fine and there are no problems. I'm glad you've got everything you need.

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RE[7]: Comment by cmost
by lemur2 on Thu 21st Oct 2010 22:20 in reply to "RE[6]: Comment by cmost"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

Try using some nicely integrated KDE distros. There's a lot more to a complete system then "We compiled everything upstream released" and not understanding this is *the* single biggest thing holding back desktop Linux. Go ahead, tell me it's fine and there are no problems. I'm glad you've got everything you need.


So you can't actually come up with a real problem that Kubuntu in particular has, I take it?

You can't actually point out a solid example where Kubuntu isn't nicely integrated compared with another KDE desktop distribution, so you thought you would just try and lob the ball back in my court?

I'm lobbing it back again.

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