Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 21st Oct 2010 09:13 UTC
Mac OS X After the news that the new MacBook Airs do not ship with Flash pre-installed (which is news considering Flash has been part of Mac OS X for a very long time), we now have news that Apple is also taking what appears to be the first steps towards removing Apple's own Java runtime from Mac OS X.
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fretinator
Member since:
2005-07-06

Netbeans
Eclipse
Limewire
OpenOffice (uses JDBC)
Squirrel SQL Editor
JEdit
PGAdmin3 - Postgresql admin tool

And many more. People like to take shots at Java (just like they do at everything else), but you can create some nice tools.

One thing that truly rocks in Java is JDBC. It is so simple to connect to Oracle, SQL Server, MySQL, etc. Drivers are just jars that go with the app, so deployment is just drag-n-drop. No client libraries needed.

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Bill Shooter of Bul Member since:
2006-07-14

Those are useful programs, but (with the exception of Open Office), I'd prefer to use others that are not written in Java.

Its also a bit disingenuous to have Open office on the list, as it doesn't use Java for the parts of Gui, which is the part I complain about the most with Java programs.

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fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

Its also a bit disingenuous to have Open office on the list, as it doesn't use Java for the parts of Gui, which is the part I complain about the most with Java programs.


I would have been disingenuous IF I had not specifically pointed out that it only used it for JDBC. I then went on to point out how nice JDBC is for connecting to databases (which is why OOO uses it). The point is that Java is useful for more than just desktop apps. I write a lot of database utilities and command-line apps using Java. It is obviously tremendously useful on the server side. I think people make a mistake of dissing Java because some of the apps aren't as pretty as others. I, for one, can't use a platform that doesn't support Java.

By the way, I think Eclipse and Netbeans are great-looking apps, but I'm a code monkey, so my opinion may not count.

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