Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 20th Oct 2010 19:02 UTC
Apple So, Apple held its usual autumn press get-together just now, and after a few rather uninspiring ones (to me, at least), they finally managed to blow me away, with the new MacBook Air (especially the 11.6" variant). They also gave a sneak peek at Mac OS X 10.7 Lion, which has... An App Store. An App Store Apple is going to open on Snow Leopard within 90 days.
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RE: It's a sad day for the mac.
by NeoX on Thu 21st Oct 2010 21:26 UTC in reply to "It's a sad day for the mac."
NeoX
Member since:
2006-02-19

I really don't know what to do with my disappointment. I'm really very sad.

The "MacStore" way IS the IOS way: They're closing everything down? After open sourcing and everything... it was only an excuse because the power was not there?

I seriously doubt they are closing things down the way the doomsayers are whining about! That would make absolutely no sense. No, regular applications are not going to go away anytime soon.


What will happen? Will the Developer Tools miss examples and code needed to write anything in kernel land? Will there be two sorts of Developers: the ones who make something for the Mac Store, and the ones who make things freely?

Again, nothing is going to change as that would make no sense. Developers will still be free to make products like VMware and others that require KEXTs. They just won't be able to sell it on the MacApp store.


No more Little Snitch? No more device drivers from anywhere? Will the only "protector" of my computer be APPLE? or Steve himself?

Yeah, no device drivers, that's logical!


This is really scary and ugly! This goes too far.
Steve, are You out of Your mind? What else did they transplant with Your liver? You're making "1984" happen!

I've got some hope left that apple won't be drawing the "Store" line too tightly, but think of it - why shouldn't they? Just to keep a few, old customers loyal from the beginning? Why, when there are millions of NEW, brainwashed ones to draw money from...

Wow, I can only hope that you are being sarcastic as this sounds like one of the most illogical posts I have read. It would be certain doom for Apple's Mac business to go to this closed scenario that you describe. Sorry, no way it is going to happen.

All this is amounts to another way for Apple to sell software and the developers to get their apps to a bigger audience. Of course you are free to not use the MacApp store and continue to sell it yourself. Apple is not about to lock down the Mac this drastically. If they do what you describe then NO other applications will run. This would eliminate ALL the apps that exist today. Nope, sorry Charlie, no way in hades it is going to happen.

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TheGZeus Member since:
2010-05-19

Wow, I can only hope that you are being sarcastic as this sounds like one of the most illogical posts I have read. It would be certain doom for Apple's Mac business to go to this closed scenario that you describe. Sorry, no way it is going to happen.

All this is amounts to another way for Apple to sell software and the developers to get their apps to a bigger audience. Of course you are free to not use the MacApp store and continue to sell it yourself. Apple is not about to lock down the Mac this drastically. If they do what you describe then NO other applications will run. This would eliminate ALL the apps that exist today. Nope, sorry Charlie, no way in hades it is going to happen.


Yeah...
Fanaticism.

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r2d2 Member since:
2006-08-08


I seriously doubt they are closing things down the way the doomsayers are whining about! That would make absolutely no sense. No, regular applications are not going to go away anytime soon.


I perfectly agree: it would not make any sense... but wait, for who? for me, for you. But for Apple in the current mood they are, it makes perfect sense to earn 30% every time an application is sold. It's the best way they could possibly make money.

I'm no doomsayer - at least not usually. It's what Apple's doing lately that scares me off. And I'm a very very long time customer, user, and developer. I've never been particularly fanatic, but I do like the quality of Apple products and their innovations. But what is happening now, is more and more pure greed in my eyes: Yes Steve, I see where You're headed, and think that I don't like it.


Again, nothing is going to change as that would make no sense. Developers will still be free to make products like VMware and others that require KEXTs.


Again: I perfectly agree that it makes no sense. I just fear that Apple won't be caring much about it: The ones who don't care will be many more.

Yeah, no device drivers, that's logical!

Wait and you'll see. Drivers that need to be kernel extensions are going to vanish over time: USB classes can be done in userland, and interfaces can be provided to userland by the kernel for other interfaces as well. Ah, well, which interfaces BTW? Think MacBook Pro. Think MacBook Air: There is NO such interface... And think of the "advantage": No EVIL app will be able to crash your computer anymore…

This would eliminate ALL the apps that exist today. Nope, sorry Charlie no way in hades it is going to happen.


I sincerely hope that you're right. I really do. But let's wait and see, in one year we will know, isnt'it? Until then, happy Appling to everyone..

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