Linked by David Adams on Sun 24th Oct 2010 23:06 UTC, submitted by sawboss
Apple Being the brains behind Microsoft has made Bill Gates the wealthiest guy in the world. So he can pretty much afford to buy his kids any gadgets they want. However, Apple devices are banned in the Gates’ house. This is surprisingly not a rule set by Bill Gates. Melinda Gates has made it very clear in an interview with The New York Times that she does not allow Apple hardware in the house. If the kids want an iPod they’ll have to settle for a Zune instead.
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RE: Wise Move
by kaiwai on Mon 25th Oct 2010 04:32 UTC in reply to "Wise Move"
kaiwai
Member since:
2005-07-06

I refuse to purchase or install any Apple product, as they are complete shit.
iPods need rockbox to be made useful, the iPhone needs gaolbreaking to be made useful, iTunes is seriously ugly (as is the rest of their brushed aluminium rubbish), and quicktime is essentially malware.

Every Apple product has at least one superior alternative.
iPod? Archos media player.
iTunes? Foobar2000
iMac? Linux/Windows custom build.
quicktime? VLC.
iPhone? Android, MeeGo, WinMo7, Blackberry, WebOS.


Assuming you want to do it all yourself. Archos? come on - why the hell would you want to use something with such a horrible reliability track record and bundles an ancient version of a firmware? In New Zealand to get an Archos net tablet you'll be paying $300 more than an iPod Touch and an ancient version of Android on it - fuck that for a joke.

What you've provided is nothing other than, "here is some half baked shit that I'll use simply to spite Apple" - I don't give a crap about the company, all I care about is the end result. The simple fact of the matter is that most of Apple's competitors just don't have their act together - it is that simple.

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RE[2]: Wise Move
by woegjiub on Mon 25th Oct 2010 04:48 in reply to "RE: Wise Move"
woegjiub Member since:
2008-11-25

I have over 300GB of music (15% or so in FLAC), that is why I would like to use archos.
Admittedly, they are too expensive and too buggy, so I would not buy one, which leaves the media player market completely empty in my eyes.
iPods lack capacity, although with the installation of rockbox to allow FLAC playback and drag+drop, they do become handy.
Not good enough for me to overcome my loathing of the draconic fruit company, though.
This leaves me with chucking the largest microSD I can into my android, and using that with music converted to .ogg.

They do not have their act together?
Dude.
I love foobar2000 and Android, I use them every day.
Same goes for Windows, VLC and Firefox.
Ubuntu is rapidly getting there, and would be my default OS if it played all the games windows can, just as Opera will become my default browser when their extensions become diverse enough.

I like having OPTIONS.
Apple products "just work", but loathe being customised in the slightest.

Edited 2010-10-25 04:56 UTC

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RE[3]: Wise Move
by kaiwai on Mon 25th Oct 2010 05:14 in reply to "RE[2]: Wise Move"
kaiwai Member since:
2005-07-06

I have over 300GB of music (15% or so in FLAC), that is why I would like to use archos.
Admittedly, they are too expensive and too buggy, so I would not buy one, which leaves the media player market completely empty in my eyes.


I have a similar situation with my music, 200GB of music and the largest available is a 160GB from Apple which is more reliable than the Archos I bought and died within 2 days of owning it (I bought it via Amazon through a re-mailer so it cost a fortune). Been there, done that and have already experienced the 'pleasure' of owning an Archos thank you very much. Add to the fact that they lock down their devices so you can upgrade the hard disk, to some how put *THEM* up as an 'open alternative' is a load of crap. You shouldn't spend time over a the Archos forum to hear the chorus of complaints about it.

Don't get me started on the lack of availability in New Zealand - come on, get with the fucking programme. This isn't 1900 for Christ sake, it is 2010 and there is no reason why something should not be available globally on day one other than the company being run by a pack of dickheads unable to work their head around this idea that the internet is a global phenomenon thus there is no reason why you can't serve people globally.

iPods lack capacity, although with the installation of rockbox to allow FLAC playback and drag+drop, they do become handy.
Not good enough for me to overcome my loathing of the draconic fruit company, though.
This leaves me with chucking the largest microSD I can into my android, and using that with music converted to .ogg.


Which is well outside where the majority of end users sit - the majority of users throw in their CD, rip it, sync with their device then head off to do what they want to do.

They do not have their act together?
Dude.
I love foobar2000 and Android, I use them every day.
Same goes for Windows, VLC and Firefox.
Ubuntu is rapidly getting there, and would be my default OS if it played all the games windows can, just as Opera will become my default browser when their extensions become diverse enough.

I like having OPTIONS.
Apple products "just work", but loathe being customised in the slightest.


Well, good for you - but just because you find something great doesn't make it a universal. I don't run Linux for the same reason many people want; we run the operating system that gives us the greatest access to the applications we like and support the hardware we already own. We choose our operating systems not to 'stick it to the man' but to get things done. Until Linux advocates drop this conspiratorial crap about Microsoft and accept that they need to fix up Linux then the Linux world is going no where fast - they'll be like the scene out of 'Life of Brian' where the liberation groups are more concerned with fighting each other and holding meetings than actually delivering something to the end user.

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RE[2]: Wise Move
by lemur2 on Mon 25th Oct 2010 05:06 in reply to "RE: Wise Move"
lemur2 Member since:
2007-02-17

In New Zealand to get an Archos net tablet you'll be paying $300 more than an iPod Touch and an ancient version of Android on it - f--k that for a joke. What you've provided is nothing other than, "here is some half baked shit that I'll use simply to spite Apple" - I don't give a crap about the company, all I care about is the end result. The simple fact of the matter is that most of Apple's competitors just don't have their act together - it is that simple.


In Australia for the same price as an iPod touch you can buy this Android tablet:

http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/info.asp?c1=183&c2=185&...

It has a bigger, higher-resolution touchscreen, it supports Google Chrome web browser, and Flash, it has a micro-SD memory slot, a 1.3Mpixel camera, USB ports, G sensor, email and YouTube.

The battery life is not as good as an iPod touch, however.

The main bonus I suppose is that, unlike an iPod touch, the ePad 7 does not list an expensive Mac or PC desktop computer amongst its System requirements.

I presume it wouldn't be too much trouble for you to buy this in New Zealand. It should certainly work perfectly well enough and be compatible, and warranty etc. should apply.

If you wanted to go a bit up-market, for $130 AUD less than an iPad, you could get this ePad P10 3Dui from the same Australian company:

http://www.pioneercomputers.com.au/products/info.asp?c1=183&c2=185&...

This device runs Android Version: 2.2 (Froyo), it has Flash Support, 3D UI, with Kernel core: 2.6.32, and it features amongst it very nice specs an ARM Cortex A9 dual-core CPU @ 1Ghz and nvidia Tegra graphics.

Apple's competitors products ... are not as well known or as well hyped as Apple's products.

Edited 2010-10-25 05:15 UTC

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