Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Oct 2010 19:00 UTC, submitted by sjvn
Ubuntu, Kubuntu, Xubuntu Well, this is sure to raise a few eyebrows here and there. Today, at the Ubuntu Developer Summit, Mark Shuttleworth held his keynote speech, and in it, he announced that Ubuntu will switch to the Unity user interface come release, for both the netbook as well as the desktop, leaving the GNOME user interface behind (but keeping the GNOME platform).
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Metacity
by fretinator on Mon 25th Oct 2010 20:35 UTC
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2005-07-06

Unless I am massively confused (happens), Ubuntu is actually switching Window Managers, from Matacity to Unity. They are still using the Gnome Desktop environment. Are people having trouble differentiating a Window Manager from a Desktop Environment?

I read several articles on the subject, and I don't see anyone mentioning this.

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RE: Metacity
by _txf_ on Mon 25th Oct 2010 20:48 in reply to "Metacity"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Good self diagnosis.

Let me clear some things up:

-Unity is their proposed Desktop Shell.
-Metacity is a Window Manager (current gnome)

->WM != DS

-When gnome goes to V3.0 Ubuntu will not be using the gnome 3 desktop shell it will use unity.

Currently ubuntu uses compiz as its WM if there is hardware support (metacity as a fallback, I think).They will continue using compiz instead of Mutter (which is the gnome 3 WM).

Edited 2010-10-25 20:49 UTC

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RE[2]: Metacity
by fretinator on Mon 25th Oct 2010 20:54 in reply to "RE: Metacity"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

So, to see if I understand what you said, they are going to diverge on shells - with Ubuntu using Unity and Gnome using the Gnome shell. Is that correct?

What would be the shell that Ubuntu and Gnome are currently using, or is there one?

Edited 2010-10-25 20:55 UTC

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RE: Metacity
by vivainio on Mon 25th Oct 2010 20:48 in reply to "Metacity"
vivainio Member since:
2008-12-26

Unless I am massively confused (happens), Ubuntu is actually switching Window Managers, from Matacity to Unity. They are still using the Gnome Desktop environment.


Nope, Unity is changing WM from Mutter to Compiz.

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RE: Metacity
by Thom_Holwerda on Mon 25th Oct 2010 20:52 in reply to "Metacity"
Thom_Holwerda Member since:
2005-06-29

Wait, did I say something wrong in the article or what?

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RE[2]: Metacity
by fretinator on Mon 25th Oct 2010 21:02 in reply to "RE: Metacity"
fretinator Member since:
2005-07-06

I am really getting confused. I knew we had these layers:

XServer
Window Manager
Desktop Environment

Now it apears that we have:

XServer
Window Manager
Shell
Desktop Environment

[or is the Shell above the environment, I get confused]

"I'm talkiing Levels, Jerry - Levels!"

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