Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 25th Oct 2010 21:43 UTC
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless Well, this was inevitable. After Samsung and Sony Ericsson abandoning Symbian for their line of smartphones, and after Symbian Foundation executive director Lee Williams leaving the company for "personal reasons", there's now a report that the Symbian Foundation is winding down its operations, in preparation for closing up shop entirely.
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Laurence
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2007-03-26

My original claim is that manufacturers should not bother with non-Linux operating systems (i.e. kernel + drivers), not platforms.

Same difference. 'Platform' just a generic term for a hardware or software vector - be it CPU architecture (x86/PowerPC/ARM), kernel (BSD/Linux) or developers framework (.NET/Qt/etc).



What is not subjective though is the extremely successful Apple computing platform, and the UI takes a big role in that success.

I never disputed that so you're reiteration was not required.

What absurd claim? I stated the obvious: manufacturers should stick with Linux, the operating system (kernel and drivers) but write their own UI that rivals in quality the iOS UI.

Right, you didn't state that until now. You only stated that they should stick with Linux. Perhaps if you'd expanded on your point, we could have saved ourselves a lot of time.

Anyway, I don't think it matters too much what the kernel is - BSD, for example, would work just as well. I've also heard (though not personally used it) QNX would be well suited too.

So what really matters is that the time is spent on the user space (UI, developers toolkits, etc). A point you stated when you elaborated on your original comment but not the same as your original comment (as you original post explicitly targeted a single kernel)

Edited 2010-10-27 13:04 UTC

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axilmar Member since:
2006-03-20

Perhaps if you'd expanded on your point, we could have saved ourselves a lot of time


Perhaps if you asked, I would have expanded on it.

Anyway, I don't think it matters too much what the kernel is - BSD, for example, would work just as well. I've also heard (though not personally used it) QNX would be well suited too.


Agreed. My point is "please do not spend your resources on custom kernels like Symbian - concentrate in userspace".

A point you stated when you elaborated on your original comment but not the same as your original comment (as you original post explicitly targeted a single kernel)


It's not my fault that you did not understand my comment, sorry.

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Laurence Member since:
2007-03-26

Agreed. My point is "please do not spend your resources on custom kernels like Symbian - concentrate in userspace".

The symbian kernel is already built though so - to follow your point - it doesn't matter whether you develop for Symbian's userspace or Linux's.

I thought you were saying there's no point writing your own kernel from scratch (which there isn't). But Symbian is already built so your example is flawed.

Perhaps if you asked, I would have expanded on it.
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It's not my fault that you did not understand my comment, sorry.

It's generally good practice to explain your point before lecturing people who are mislead by an incomplete post.

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Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Agreed. My point is "please do not spend your resources on custom kernels like Symbian - concentrate in userspace".

What if kernel features, e.g. in the security area, have an influence on user experience ? Say, if I look at the number of vulnerabilities discovered on iOS and Android since their appearance and contrast with the vulnerabilities discovered in Symbian since they switched to their new security model, knowing that Symbian has been there longer...

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