Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 2nd Nov 2010 23:10 UTC, submitted by poundsmack
PDAs, Cellphones, Wireless "Under an initiative sponsored by the European Commission, the Symbian platform was this week endorsed by the Artemis Joint Technology Initiative and specifically identified as a unique technology that is a vital focus for European-centric mobile software development. As a result, a total investment of over EUR 22 million has been committed to the development of next generation technologies for the Symbian platform. This development project is being led by the Symbian Foundation as part of a consortium of major European technology organisations. The consortium is made up of 24 organisations from 8 European countries, comprising major mobile device manufacturers, hardware and service integration professional services, major consumer electronics companies, mobile network operators, application developers, universities and research institutions."
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RE: Is this necessary?
by satan666 on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 00:38 UTC in reply to "Is this necessary?"
satan666
Member since:
2008-04-18

Is the European Commission's sudden interest in boosting a closed-source system like Symbian really going to benefit companies (other than Nokia) or end-users? I'm not so sure.

The Symbian platform is open source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_platform

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RE[2]: Is this necessary?
by Macrat on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 01:46 in reply to "RE: Is this necessary?"
Macrat Member since:
2006-03-27


The Symbian platform is open source.


And has pretty much been dropped by everyone except Nokia.

Open, but single vendor.

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RE[3]: Is this necessary?
by vodoomoth on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 11:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Is this necessary?"
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

At some point, Android was single vendor, as well as Meego no matter the number of contributors. Apple's OS is single vendor.

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RE[2]: Is this necessary?
by ozonehole on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 06:54 in reply to "RE: Is this necessary?"
ozonehole Member since:
2006-01-07

The Symbian platform is open source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_platform


Thanks, I stand corrected.

But I still think that Android (or maybe Meego) makes more sense. Trying to upgrade Symbian looks like a duplication of effort. Symbian's main value for me, right now, is that it's fine for a simple low-end phone where Android would be overkill.

I guess the EC has too much money to burn.

Edited 2010-11-03 06:55 UTC

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RE[3]: Is this necessary?
by ricegf on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 11:23 in reply to "RE[2]: Is this necessary?"
ricegf Member since:
2007-04-25

"Trying to upgrade Symbian looks like a duplication of effort."

That pretty much defines capitalism, doesn't it? Android was a duplication of effort with the iPhone, which was a duplication of effort with Palm, which was a duplication of effort with WinCE, which was a duplication of effort with Communicator, which was a duplication of effort with Simon. Yet the market advanced step by step with better products to the smartphones we know and love today. (Well, maybe not with WinCE... :-D )

The Soviet model was "Pick the best option, and invest everything in it" - i.e., avoid any duplication of effort. But that model failed, because you don't know the best option until the market decides. So the market invests in several options - duplicate options - and consumers vote with their pocketbook.

Whether a government should be giving tax money to one competitor is a different, perhaps better, question. I'll avoid it, though, as I've had enough politics for a while.

Except this: I greatly appreciate your "I stand corrected" comment, and hope our surviving politicians both red and blue have the same integrity.

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RE[3]: Is this necessary?
by vodoomoth on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 11:37 in reply to "RE[2]: Is this necessary?"
vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

"The Symbian platform is open source.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symbian_platform


Thanks, I stand corrected.

But I still think that Android (or maybe Meego) makes more sense. Trying to upgrade Symbian looks like a duplication of effort. Symbian's main value for me, right now, is that it's fine for a simple low-end phone where Android would be overkill.

I guess the EC has too much money to burn.
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So... duplication of effort is a bad thing? Should we have all stuck with IE in 2003? After all, never-really-blossomed Opera was fighting the dying Netscape and the almighty IE. Firefox was just a project idea in a few people's mind. According to you logic, Chrome would have never existed as it duplicated Webkit on Mac and Windows.

Why does the teenage Android make more sense than the venerable Symbian? the age? the hair color? the boobs? or the overall "sexiness"?

Obviously, you have a preference for Android and think Symbian should be left to die. Others disagree. And I do as the general sentiment on this site has been that diversity is good, in browsers, desktop OSes, etc. Why wouldn't it be so with mobile OSes? Symbian works very well on my 30 months old Nokia 6110 navigator and provides me with a full week autonomy in standby, a good native browser, Opera Mini, and a fully functional SIM-less and standalone GPS navigator with voice guiding and no lags at all including when alerting me about gas station, ATMs or speed radars. I don't do social networking so... I'm still wondering why I decided to get the Android-powered HTC Desire six weeks ago, a power (performance-wise) beast that barely lasts 1.5 day (battery life-wise) without being used! The most recent Copilot offers no feature that the software on the other phone doesn't have. Overall, I am underimpressed with Android. And maybe that I would have been more satisfied with a Symbian-based tactile phone if my carrier offered such a phone at the time of my purchase.

So what is your love for Android and disdain for Symbian about?


the EC has too much money to burn.

Err, that's their problem. They have reasons to spend that amount of money (which btw is close to nothing for the EC) that we don't know. However, note that all governments and many institutions "encourage innovation and support important development areas". What each of those words mean is up to those who make decisions. For the EC, these 22 million € are not "burning". For the students who get to work on a doctoral thesis out of that money, if any, it won't be squandered money either. I ran after the EC ample stipends when it was my turn... I would have enjoyed landing my hands on one of their grants.

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RE[3]: Is this necessary?
by PatrickQuinn on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 12:41 in reply to "RE[2]: Is this necessary?"
PatrickQuinn Member since:
2010-06-08

Neither android nor meego need the money, intel and google own them after all. This is like a social worker doing his best to help and abandoned child.

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RE[3]: Is this necessary?
by aliquis on Wed 3rd Nov 2010 15:24 in reply to "RE[2]: Is this necessary?"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

MeeGo is supposed to have all applications by 1.2 in April, we're not there yet.

Also maybe Symbian is better for some other devices or needs, what do I know.

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