Linked by Thom Holwerda on Thu 4th Nov 2010 22:32 UTC
Internet & Networking "What if you could essentially fake your death online - completely delete any trace of yourself from Facebook, Twitter, blogs, forums, Usenet, and anywhere else there might be some record of your existence. Such a concept is largely impossible today, especially given complications from services like Facebook combined with caches and mirrors of practically everything ever e-created. The European Commission wants to change that."
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RE: Comment by OSbunny
by Neolander on Fri 5th Nov 2010 06:13 UTC in reply to "Comment by OSbunny"
Neolander
Member since:
2010-03-08

In this case I can answer : some guys have really screwed up on the internet around here, enough to attract the attention of legal powers.

As an example, I rode the history of a girl who discovered through her co-workers that unknown people were spreading violent false accusations against her, in extremely harsh terms, on various sites. They were one of the first links in Google, meaning that a potential employer looking to know more would find that quickly. That someone can anonymously hurt your professional life in a non-reversible fashion is indeed something unacceptable.

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RE[2]: Comment by OSbunny
by ndrw on Fri 5th Nov 2010 09:44 in reply to "RE: Comment by OSbunny"
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2009-06-30

As much as I don't like Google or Facebook practices I have to agree with OSbunny. It's just another regulation imposed on content or service providers. At some point it will become illegal to run websites like OSnews without dozens of licenses and deep pockets, it's just a matter of time.

As for your example - no regulations will ever erase these data from the web. That's just an inherent to information itself. Law may forbid distributing these data but can't physically eliminate it - just wait for "black market" search engines selling their services to anyone (most of us?) who wants to get uncensored information. It's simply yet another attempt at using law for changing the way the nature works.

The solution to this problem is not to publish any private information on the web and if someone does it for you (either a bad guy or a careless service provider) - to sue him/it. Irreversibility of such a damage should warrant a fair compensation. Just imagine how would it affect Facebook-wannabes if Facebook had to shell out $1k (let's be cheap this time) to all people affected by their recent leak.

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RE[2]: Comment by OSbunny
by jjmckay on Fri 5th Nov 2010 09:53 in reply to "RE: Comment by OSbunny"
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2005-11-11

In this case I can answer : some guys have really screwed up on the internet around here, enough to attract the attention of legal powers.


Why can't existing slander laws work in the case you cite?

The power of government to force people against their will to delete data on the Internet can be used for evil. They come in with noble sounding goals, of course. "This is to protect you. We are here to help." - words of tyrants throughout history. Clever people word these sorts of laws in ways that can be exploited in unforeseen ways.

Governments like to rewrite history and silence criticism and what better framework is there when a government doesn't have authority to force people to delete publicly accessible data than with laws like this?

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RE[2]: Comment by OSbunny
by vodoomoth on Tue 9th Nov 2010 13:29 in reply to "RE: Comment by OSbunny"
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2010-03-30

I second jjmckay and ndrw: the best protection for that is to not put anything out there in the first place.
People want to be famous, or have an insane number of friends and then they rave about their "right to be forgotten"? If the web could speak, who can guarantee that it wouldn't rave about its "right to remember"?
I've managed to never see more of Facebook, Twitter and othe rhip social networking sites that there may be, than their 'f' and 't' icons. How smart of me! But I also understand that not everybody is the privacy freak that I am; I'm using secondary addresses and striving to reach a point where nobody (that isn't family or friends) knows my main email address.

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