Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 6th Nov 2010 00:27 UTC
Privacy, Security, Encryption Well, this was to be expected: an anti-virus company complaining that Microsoft's Security Essentials - by far the best anti-virus tool for Windows - is anti-competitive. Microsoft recently began offering MSE as an optional download via the optional Microsoft Update service (which is not Windows Update), and Trend Micro (a patent troll) is going into boo-hoo mode over it.
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RE: Trend Micro =/= patent troll
by galvanash on Sat 6th Nov 2010 04:51 UTC in reply to "Trend Micro =/= patent troll"
galvanash
Member since:
2006-01-25

I would mod you up, but I want to add to what you said... It is counter-productive to call a company like this a patent troll, because it dilutes the definition of the term to the point that it doesn't mean anything anymore. If Trend Micro is a patent troll than virtually every software company on earth who has ever been granted a patent and filed suit at some point is one...

I am violently opposed to the practice of patent trolling. A patent troll is a company that produces nothing, files for and/or acquires obvious patents and then silently waits for an actual functional business to implement their now patented idea and sues the crap out of them for their trouble.

Trend Micro is NOT a patent troll. They make stuff. The stuff they make may be pretty crappy, you may hate their product (hell I hate their product), etc. etc., but they do make something.

The term should be reserved for the vile, filthy, cowardly, scum-of-the-earth, no-talent, useless assholes that truly deserve the title.

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Soulbender Member since:
2005-08-18

To these two excellent points I would like to add that I can certainly see why Trends might be miffed about MSE although applying the term antitrust is probably not correct. This is actually more like unfair competition and price dumping, MS is more or less dumping a new product into an existing market and using profits from other products to cover their losses.
I'm not saying Trends is necessarily right but I can see why this behavior would upset them.
I also hate their products too btw, but making crap products isn't against the law.

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WereCatf Member since:
2006-02-15

This is actually more like unfair competition and price dumping, MS is more or less dumping a new product into an existing market and using profits from other products to cover their losses.

MSE is not a new product, it has existed already for quite some time. So none of this applies.

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vodoomoth Member since:
2010-03-30

Which still doesn't make Trend Micro's complaint something I can agree with. People have been paying for Yahoo Mail plus before GMail arrived. People have been paying for IntelliJ IDEA before Eclipse surfaced (having reportedly cost $40 million to IBM). And these are probably not the sole examples but my mind can't find another valid one right now. The whole h.264 and WebM? Google has "given" web users several good free products that are not search-centric. I bet some of these markets had vendors (of non-free solutions/products) that were already established. Best example, Linux vs Windows...

Big players "dumping" markets looks like a fact of life. Businesses should just learn to deal with it, either by establishing a monopoly and trying to crush the competition, or by releasing products better than the competition. I won't feel sorry for Trend Micro, and that's not just because I use Avira. Imagine if people using MSE were left "in the dark" just to protect AV companies' bottom line.

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