Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 9th Nov 2010 22:28 UTC, submitted by fran
Java "Charging that Oracle has willfully disregarded the licensing terms for its own Java technology, the Apache Software Foundation has called upon other members of the Java Community Process (JCP) to vote against the next proposed version of the language, should Oracle continue to impose restrictions on open-source Java use. The nonprofit organization has also indicated that it could end its involvement in the JCP if the licensing restrictions stay in place."
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Bill Shooter of Bul
Member since:
2006-07-14

While a good joke, I think that no one has figured out the Oracle angle on Mono. The Android lawsuit sorta revealed that Oracle considers microsoft to be a Java licensee that pays royalties for the Oracle patents on Java that dotNet framework uses. So Microsoft may never sue for Mono, but that doesn't mean that Oracle wont ( if anyone ever makes money off of it).

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Slambert666 Member since:
2008-10-30

So Microsoft may never sue for Mono, but that doesn't mean that Oracle wont ( if anyone ever makes money off of it).


True, It is quite obvious that with the patent promise for dotNET Microsoft cannot possibly sue Mono.

What is worse however is that Oracle is probably in a position to sue over any VM based language, including Python, Ruby, Lua, etc. Not just Mono.

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bhtooefr Member since:
2009-02-19

Well, there's UCSD Pascal and Smalltalk. They're ancient (UCSD Pascal came out in 1978, Smalltalk's VM came out in 1983,) but that means that they're safe, patent-wise.

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jgagnon Member since:
2008-06-24

What is worse however is that Oracle is probably in a position to sue over any VM based language, including Python, Ruby, Lua, etc. Not just Mono.


Not really, considering Python (for instance) was released before Java even started as a project within Sun. Ruby started much later, but interpreted languages have been around a LONG time, so I can't see any such lawsuit standing up in court for long.

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gnufreex Member since:
2010-05-06

True, It is quite obvious that with the patent promise for dotNET Microsoft cannot possibly sue Mono.

Microsoft patent promise is worth nothing, and it only includes subsets of .NET. Mono have gone far beyond promised part. De Icaza promised last year to make mono distribution with only those parts that are under Microsoft's false promise, but he realized that such piece of software would be unusable and it would show how dangerous Mono is. So he gave up, because he can't continue lying that Mono is safe if he actually shows that only small subset is under Microsoft's fake promise.

Also, even if such subset of Mono is used, that doesn't protect you from Microsoft's trolls like Paul Allen. Microsoft could just give a patent to Traul Allen and let him go wild against GNU/Linux distributors that ship Mono. Fake promise only implies that Microsoft won't sue, doesn't say anything about Traul Allen or Nathan Myhrvold, or Accacia(accacia already sued Red Hat for bogus patents).

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