Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 15th Nov 2010 23:37 UTC, submitted by comay
Oracle and SUN Today Oracle released its latest version of Solaris technology, the Oracle Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 release. It includes a large number of new features not found in either Oracle Solaris 10 or previous OpenSolaris releases including ZFS encryption and deduplication, network-based packaging and provisioning systems, network virtualization, optimized I/O for NUMA platforms and optimized platform support including support for Intel's latest Nehalem and SPARC T3. In addition, Oracle Solaris 10 support is available from within a container/zone so migration of existing systems is greatly simplified. The release is available under a variety of licenses including a supported commercial license on a wide variety of x86 and SPARC platforms.
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Unlike Sun
by whartung on Tue 16th Nov 2010 01:11 UTC
whartung
Member since:
2005-07-06

This version can not be used in production, only for development. This is similar to how they license the Database and other things.

If you want to develop stuff, you can download and test and work all you want. But as soon as you deploy it, you need to get a license.

License for Solaris appears to be $1000/Socket/Year for machines with 1-4 sockets. This is for machines that are not Oracle hardware. No idea how much is costs to load it up on an older Sun box (or perhaps none of that is considered Oracle Hardware).

This pricing is not completely out of line with something like RHEL.

The next question is whether the Open Source Dump will enable anyone to put together a similar offering outside of Oracle (like CentOS for RHEL, though not identical). Not clear how feature complete the CDDL based OSS code dump will be vs Solaris Express.

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RE: Unlike Sun
by brynet on Tue 16th Nov 2010 01:13 in reply to "Unlike Sun"
brynet Member since:
2010-03-02

It hasn't even been confirmed that Oracle will be releasing any source dumps.. besides some leaked memo from a few months back.

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RE: Unlike Sun
by Kebabbert on Tue 16th Nov 2010 11:56 in reply to "Unlike Sun"
Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

This version can be used for EVALUATION and/or DEVELOPMENT. There is no time limit specified for evaluation nor development. You could evaluate and develop some shell scripts for say, 5 years. As long as you dont violate the license you are free.

Basically, Oracle executives say that you can use it at home. But if you use it in production you need to pay. You can buy support and patches for Solaris 11 Express.

Regarding Linux, well, for instance, RedHat6 is more expensive than Solaris 11. I trust more on an mature Enterprise Unix such as Solaris, than Linux. I would rather pay support for Solaris 11 than RedHat.

"If it has to run, it runs on Solaris"

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RE[2]: Unlike Sun
by segedunum on Tue 16th Nov 2010 18:48 in reply to "RE: Unlike Sun"
segedunum Member since:
2005-07-06

I trust more on an mature Enterprise Unix such as Solaris, than Linux. I would rather pay support for Solaris 11 than RedHat.

That's absolutely fabulous for you, but unfortunately there are a sizeable and significant number of people over the past ten years who don't and haven't agreed with you. Sun wheeled out the 'mature enterprise Unix' line many times and it didn't make any difference. That's why it's Oracle having a go now and not Sun.

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RE[2]: Unlike Sun
by dukes on Tue 16th Nov 2010 20:01 in reply to "RE: Unlike Sun"
dukes Member since:
2005-07-06

This version can be used for EVALUATION and/or DEVELOPMENT. There is no time limit specified for evaluation nor development. You could evaluate and develop some shell scripts for say, 5 years. As long as you dont violate the license you are free.

Basically, Oracle executives say that you can use it at home. But if you use it in production you need to pay. You can buy support and patches for Solaris 11 Express.

Regarding Linux, well, for instance, RedHat6 is more expensive than Solaris 11. I trust more on an mature Enterprise Unix such as Solaris, than Linux. I would rather pay support for Solaris 11 than RedHat.

"If it has to run, it runs on Solaris"



Actually you can install into production as well.

#11 of the faq says:

Licensing and Support for Oracle Solaris 11 Express

11-Can I get support for Oracle Solaris 11 Express?

Yes. Oracle Solaris 11 Express is covered under the Oracle Premier Support for Operating Systems or Oracle Premier Support for Systems support option for Oracle hardware, and Oracle Solaris Premier Subscription for non-Oracle hardware. Customers must choose either of these support options should they wish to deploy Oracle Solaris 11 Express into a production environment.

http://bit.ly/cz3hgP

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