Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 15th Nov 2010 23:37 UTC, submitted by comay
Oracle and SUN Today Oracle released its latest version of Solaris technology, the Oracle Solaris 11 Express 2010.11 release. It includes a large number of new features not found in either Oracle Solaris 10 or previous OpenSolaris releases including ZFS encryption and deduplication, network-based packaging and provisioning systems, network virtualization, optimized I/O for NUMA platforms and optimized platform support including support for Intel's latest Nehalem and SPARC T3. In addition, Oracle Solaris 10 support is available from within a container/zone so migration of existing systems is greatly simplified. The release is available under a variety of licenses including a supported commercial license on a wide variety of x86 and SPARC platforms.
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RE[4]: ZFS
by Laurence on Tue 16th Nov 2010 14:48 UTC in reply to "RE[3]: ZFS"
Laurence
Member since:
2007-03-26

I dont agree with your post. I suggest you stop worrying about ZFS and start to worry about BTRFS instead. One of the great things about ZFS is because your data is safe with ZFS. I doubt your data is safe with BTRFS, as your data is not safe with XFS, JFS, ReiserFS, hardware raid-5 or 6, etc - which is showed in current research. I therefore doubt BTRFS keeps your data safe.

You've missed my point. I'm not worried about my data (as I said when I opened this discussion, I'm somewhat of a ZFS fanboy). I'm worried about the future development of ZFS.


Why do you think ZFS is slower than BTRFS?

I never said nor even suggested it was slower.

BTRFS is just another Linux filesystem - and as we all know, Linux filesystems are not really ready for Enterprise use, as they scale bad.

BtrFS isn't just "another Linux file system" though. It's built by Oracle and Oracle are all about salability and enterprise use. BtrFS is also the underlying file system behind Oracles distributed file system (the name of which escapes me). So Oracle do have a vested interest in making BtrFS work as much as they do with ZFS.

You want to see links and articles about this?

Actually yes please. Not because I dispute your claims but more because I'm a geek and enjoy this kind of reading material ;)

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RE[5]: ZFS
by Kebabbert on Wed 17th Nov 2010 10:29 in reply to "RE[4]: ZFS"
Kebabbert Member since:
2007-07-27

"You want to see links and articles about this?

Actually yes please. Not because I dispute your claims but more because I'm a geek and enjoy this kind of reading material ;)
"
See one of my comments on Linux shortcomings on page nr 4. It is the 48th comment or so.

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RE[5]: ZFS
by phoenix on Wed 17th Nov 2010 22:52 in reply to "RE[4]: ZFS"
phoenix Member since:
2005-07-11

"BTRFS is just another Linux filesystem - and as we all know, Linux filesystems are not really ready for Enterprise use, as they scale bad.

BtrFS isn't just "another Linux file system" though.
"

Actually, it is "just another filesystem", one amongst many. No distribution is using it as the default.

It's built by Oracle and Oracle are all about scalability and enterprise use.


Yes, but btrfs code in the kernel had (until very very very recently) the EXPERIMENTAL marker still on it. The on-disk format may be stable, but the fs itself most certainly is not. And the userland tools are changing on an almost daily basis, something that should not happen in an "enterprise-ready fs".

Oracle may be about scalability, but btrfs most certainly is not. Not yet, and not for at least another year or two. They don't even have parity RAID support yet.

So Oracle do have a vested interest in making BtrFS work as much as they do with ZFS.


Oracle wants to make money. Selling hardware makes them lots of money. What was one of Sun's better selling line of harwdare? Storage systems using ZFS. There's no way they're going to give up that cash cow. Btrfs won't run on the kinds of storage servers that ZFS will.

You're making a mountain out of an ant hill. ZFS isn't going anywhere for at least 5 years. Btrfs won't be usable for at least 5 years. IOW, you have 5 years of peace ahead of you before you need to start worrying about things.

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