Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 19th Nov 2010 22:33 UTC, submitted by Governa
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RE[5]: Then I'll go with a different provider
by Ford Prefect on Sat 20th Nov 2010 21:06
in reply to "RE[4]: Then I'll go with a different provider"
RE[6]: Then I'll go with a different provider
by kaiwai on Sun 21st Nov 2010 03:07
in reply to "RE[5]: Then I'll go with a different provider"
It is the same in Germany. Sim lock is only used for pre-paid plans, where you can opt out at any time by simply not loading new money onto the phone.
The data plans an iphone ships with are not affected by that.
The data plans an iphone ships with are not affected by that.
Even for prepaid's in New Zealand you purchase the phone out right and it isn't SIM locked - of course the $99 phones are the very low end Nokia phones designed for third world markets but if you really want a cheap phone that you fully own it is quite easy. Personally I'd sooner see all phones lose their subsidies and then when you sign up for a contract you get a rebate based on how long the contract is for - for example a 24 month contract might yield a $200 rebate effectively making some phones free.
RE[5]: Then I'll go with a different provider
by phoenix on Sun 21st Nov 2010 04:19
in reply to "RE[4]: Then I'll go with a different provider"
"Presently telcos lock you in with their SIM for the period of the contract - the device is locked to their SIM.
New Zealand and Australia are two countries I know of which have contract phones but don't have SIM card locks - just because you have a contract doesn't mean that it has to have the SIM card locked because you're still going to have to keep paying the contract even if you destroyed the mobile phone or moved the sim from one device to another device. "
Canada is the same way, at least with GSM phones.
Telus and Bell, with their old CDMA phone, locked the phone number to the phone to the contract requiring lots of hoop-jumping and paperwork to swap phones mid-contract.
Rogers, though, the phone number is locked to the SIM and nothing else. What you do with the SIM is up to you. Nothing stops you from popping the SIM out of one phone, popping it into another phone, and making calls/transferring data as per normal. We've even used that to transfer phone books between phones when the wife has lost her phone. We regularly trade phones when hers is in the shop, so that I use the crappy loaner.
Don't know how Telus/Bell GMS/HSPA SIMs work, or how any of the PAYG companies work with SIM cards.
I've never understood the reasoning for keeping the SIM card internal to the phone, or locking a specific SIM to a specific card.
RE[6]: Then I'll go with a different provider
by Piranha on Tue 23rd Nov 2010 17:22
in reply to "RE[5]: Then I'll go with a different provider"
I've NEVER experienced what you're talking about with Bell/Telus when switching phones mid contract.
I had gone through about 10 phones on the CDMA network. You can call into 611 and a rep will swap it (free, if you sweet talk them). They also have an online site to do it - but it costs $10.
It still sucks, but you're by no means locked to a single phone for your contract.





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New Zealand and Australia are two countries I know of which have contract phones but don't have SIM card locks - just because you have a contract doesn't mean that it has to have the SIM card locked because you're still going to have to keep paying the contract even if you destroyed the mobile phone or moved the sim from one device to another device. The idea that some how the business model is destroyed because of the lack of SIM lock in simply ignores how a contract operates and the fact that you keep paying regardless of whether you use *THAT* particular phone you pay for. If you want to get out of that contract then you have to pay to get out of it - normally paying the difference between the full price and subsidised price plus a small penalty.