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NetBSD Another version of the extremely portable unix-like operating system NetBSD was released today. This release fixes many security issues and bugs. It also includes a good amount of new features. Please read the announcement here.
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RE: Unix-like??
by dvzt on Sat 20th Nov 2010 11:13 UTC in reply to "Unix-like??"
dvzt
Member since:
2008-10-23

Well, all the *BSD's are Unicen, at least genetically, if not certified ones.


By your logic, Tru64 isn't Unix then.


* Don't worry - I'm using gentoo as my primary system.


Why worry? Ubuntu is much better then Gentoo - by normal standards of course.

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RE[2]: Unix-like??
by Dubhthach on Sat 20th Nov 2010 16:20 in reply to "RE: Unix-like??"
Dubhthach Member since:
2006-01-12

By your logic, Tru64 isn't Unix then.


Tru64 is certified as Unix98 compliant by the opengroup.
http://www.opengroup.org/public/prods/brand2700.htm

Edited 2010-11-20 16:31 UTC

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RE[3]: Unix-like??
by tylerdurden on Sun 21st Nov 2010 00:20 in reply to "RE[2]: Unix-like??"
tylerdurden Member since:
2009-03-17

Maybe "logic" does not mean what the previous poster thinks it does?

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RE[2]: Unix-like??
by dylansmrjones on Sat 20th Nov 2010 22:55 in reply to "RE: Unix-like??"
dylansmrjones Member since:
2005-10-02

By your logic, Tru64 isn't Unix then.


Huh? I didn't state that certified Unix wasn't Unix. The only thing you can say by my logic is that any descendant of Unix is Unix. Tru64 is obviously Unix. Genetically as well as certified. That said I don't consider all certified Unicen for Unix. OS X is not Unix in my mind, even though it is certified Unix. Compatibility layers are not enough for me ;)


Why worry? Ubuntu is much better then Gentoo - by normal standards of course.


Define normal. Ubuntu is good for beginners coming from Windows, but the build system is horribly broken (evolution-sharp does not compile at all in newer Ubuntu's - unlike the situation in other distributions). Below the surface Ubuntu is an ugly mess.

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RE[3]: Unix-like??
by MobyTurbo on Sun 21st Nov 2010 16:05 in reply to "RE[2]: Unix-like??"
MobyTurbo Member since:
2005-07-08

"By your logic, Tru64 isn't Unix then.


Huh? I didn't state that certified Unix wasn't Unix. The only thing you can say by my logic is that any descendant of Unix is Unix. Tru64 is obviously Unix. Genetically as well as certified. That said I don't consider all certified Unicen for Unix. OS X is not Unix in my mind, even though it is certified Unix. Compatibility layers are not enough for me ;)
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Arguably MacOS is the compatibility layer on OS X, not the NeXTStep bits that include a BSD personality of CMU Mach.

(OSF/1, DEC's own Unix which became Tru64, and some other commercial Unixes use it - CMU Mach with a Unix personality was arguably the most standard SysV configuration at the time NeXT was popular). It's entirely possible to run OS X's "Darwin" without some of the MacOS bits, hence the Darwin distributions.

Perhaps, next you're going to argue that CMU Mach disqualifies these SysV Unixes as Unix, or perhaps the mere presense of the NeXT Frameworks on the system does (please don't install GNUstep then, it'll make your Linux stop being a Unix clone. ;-) )

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RE[2]: Unix-like??
by aliquis on Sat 20th Nov 2010 23:38 in reply to "RE: Unix-like??"
aliquis Member since:
2005-07-23

Just because he think BSD is UNIX doesn't mean something else can't be.

And seriously, even though Linux lack heritage it wouldn't be much of a stretch to include that either.

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