Linked by Thom Holwerda on Mon 22nd Nov 2010 19:53 UTC
Novell and Ximian We were well aware that Novell had put itself on the market, coyly winking at passers-by, displaying its... Assets. VMware was a contender, but things have played out entirely different: Novell has been bought by Attachmate Corp., with a Microsoft-led consortium buying unspecified intellectual property from Novell.
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rms was right- as usual
by Barnabyh on Mon 22nd Nov 2010 21:16 UTC
Barnabyh
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2006-02-06

Isn't this what richard stallman warned about? And it happened quicker than expected, or at least it seemed far off back then.
I wouldn't count on stuff like mono and gnome not being affected and being used somehow to restrain software freedom, whether it's Attachmate or MSFT owning it now by proxy.
These guys are all suits, even if they look jovial and have loosened their tie and pulled their sleeves up for the presentation, and they are *only* interested in making money. When will people learn not to trust them?

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RE: rms was right- as usual
by Adurbe on Mon 22nd Nov 2010 22:16 in reply to "rms was right- as usual"
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2005-07-06

making money pays the wages. If you dont, your tech can be the best on the market, but you will fail.

Tech industry is littered with such companies, in just a few months we have lost Sun, Palm and now Novell. These were once THE market, let alone market leaders.

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RE: rms was right- as usual
by jpobst on Mon 22nd Nov 2010 22:21 in reply to "rms was right- as usual"
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2006-09-26

I wouldn't count on stuff like mono and gnome not being affected and being used somehow to restrain software freedom, whether it's Attachmate or MSFT owning it now by proxy.


That's the good thing about open source software, even if Novell/Attachmate stops developing/distributing Mono or GNOME, the already released source code will always be there for people to use under the same license.

No one can retroactively change the license on the software people already have.

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RE[2]: rms was right- as usual
by lemur2 on Mon 22nd Nov 2010 23:07 in reply to "RE: rms was right- as usual"
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2007-02-17

"I wouldn't count on stuff like mono and gnome not being affected and being used somehow to restrain software freedom, whether it's Attachmate or MSFT owning it now by proxy.
That's the good thing about open source software, even if Novell/Attachmate stops developing/distributing Mono or GNOME, the already released source code will always be there for people to use under the same license. No one can retroactively change the license on the software people already have. "

Parts of Mono do not have free software licenses. Most of it does (most of the framework CLI, C# etc is a standard allowed to be implemented by anyone), but critical parts of .NET, implemented in Mono, have been held back by Microsoft as proprietary technology.

Microsoft/Novel made a deal that allowed Novel to develop Mono and Moonlight ... for Novel's SLED customers. Microsoft still held the rights to the still-proprietary parts of Mono and Moonlight.

I see no reason for Microsoft to want to buy back from Novel rights that Microsoft already owned in the first place.

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RE: rms was right- as usual
by MollyC on Tue 23rd Nov 2010 23:54 in reply to "rms was right- as usual"
MollyC Member since:
2006-07-04

Um, what was RMS right about?
If the assets in question were sold by one corporation to one or more other corporations, then that means that they were already owned by a corporation. Meaning, it already was the case that the assets in question weren't public domain.

Edited 2010-11-23 23:54 UTC

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