Linked by Thom Holwerda on Sat 27th Nov 2010 10:46 UTC
Legal The US is really ramping up its war on intellectual property infringement, a war which I'm sure will be just as successful, cheap and supported by the people as the wars on drugs and terrorism. The US has started seizing the domain names of various websites through ICANN - not because owners of these sites were convicted of anything, but merely because complaints have been filed against them. Anyone want to take a guess how long it will be before the US government blocks WikiLeaks? Update: The blocks function outside of the US too. In other words, the US is forcing its views upon the rest of the world once again.
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RE[3]: Comment by Sausage
by Thom_Holwerda on Sat 27th Nov 2010 15:56 UTC in reply to "RE[2]: Comment by Sausage"
Thom_Holwerda
Member since:
2005-06-29

There was a court order. They received a warrant from a district court and proceeded with executing that order.


But, the owner did not receive a notice of the warrant, which, as far as I understand it, is necessary.

Folks, when people steal other peoples stuff


Copyright infringement is not stealing. It's copyright infringement. If it were indeed stealing, we would not be seeing such ridiculous damages.

"There's much to be said for this view of "dealing with" piracy—which is why we have long argued that the judgments handed down in P2P lawsuits against twenty-something music fans have been ludicrous. $1.92 million? $675,000? No one walking out of a Walmart with a stack of Richard Marx discs under his arm would be subject to such penalties."

http://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/news/2010/08/obama-administratio...

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RE[4]: Comment by Sausage
by Sausage on Sat 27th Nov 2010 16:08 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Sausage"
Sausage Member since:
2010-11-27

Nope. Notice is not required at all before the seizure to protect evidence, and they are only required to make reasonable attempts to give notice during the seizure and afterwars.

Considering I found that the actual owner of torrent-finder is currently in Egypt, it makes giving notice difficult.

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RE[5]: Comment by Sausage
by Sausage on Sat 27th Nov 2010 16:15 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Sausage"
Sausage Member since:
2010-11-27

Oh... and the big red picture on the website with the badges all over it saying "This website had been seized by ICE in accordance with signed federal warrant pursuant to US Code blah blah blah"?

Yes. That would be a notification.

Also here is a few other articles I found.

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/11/27/technology/27torrent.html?_r=2&re...
http://rapfix.mtv.com/2010/11/26/onsmash-rapgodfathers-websites-sei...

Edited 2010-11-27 16:16 UTC

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RE[4]: Comment by Sausage
by stone2020 on Sun 28th Nov 2010 03:16 in reply to "RE[3]: Comment by Sausage"
stone2020 Member since:
2005-09-23

Copyright infringement is not stealing.


But yet you have this on your site:

© 1997-2010 OSNews LLC. All Rights Reserved. OSNews and the OSNews logo are trademarks of OSNews.
Source Code © 2007-2010, Adam Scheinberg, except where noted

Why would you ever need that on your site if you believe that copyright infringement is not stealing?

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RE[5]: Comment by Sausage
by _txf_ on Sun 28th Nov 2010 03:33 in reply to "RE[4]: Comment by Sausage"
_txf_ Member since:
2008-03-17

Sigh...

No, copyrights are about COPIES hence the term copyright. Say you use some photo or graphic that has been copyrighted in your website, are you actually stealing the photo? NO, it still exists but you have used it without the authors permission.

If it were stealing then the author would no longer have the graphic for his own use.

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