Linked by Thom Holwerda on Fri 26th Nov 2010 23:22 UTC
Legal "Three of the admins behind The Pirate Bay are all still guilty, a Swedish appeals court decided on Friday, but their jail time has been reduced. Fredrik Neij, Peter Sunde, and Carl Lundstrom's prison sentences have all been reduced from the original one year to between 4 and 10 months each, though the trade-off is an increase in damages that they must pay to the music and movie industries."
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False logic
by Barnabyh on Sun 28th Nov 2010 15:07 UTC
Barnabyh
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2006-02-06

When I was a kid we taped records from our mates all the time, and in exchange let them tape ours. There was no way anybody could have afforded all this stuff on pocket money so what the heck. You bought the stuff you really wanted, or you knew the other guy did not have and swapped.
This entire logic about downloads equating to lost sales is schewed. A lot of people most likely would never buy this stuff in the first place and only download because it is available.
1.) Lack of financial resources
2.) To be frank, most stuff coming out is just NOT THAT GOOD that you would spend your money on it.

How many time have I downloaded some of these new singers like Winehouse or some movie and quickly deleted it glad that I didn´t pay for it cos it would have been an utter waste of money. Shutter Island - Urgh.
I call it sampling. If it´s really good, a music or movie lover will buy it anyway. But there´s no way we can afford it all. The industry needs to wake up.

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RE: False logic
by WorknMan on Sun 28th Nov 2010 17:24 in reply to "False logic"
WorknMan Member since:
2005-11-13

When I was a kid we taped records from our mates all the time, and in exchange let them tape ours.


As compared to file sharing though, if your buddy is borrowing your record to tape it, you can't listen to it while he has it (unless you're over at his house, or whatever). Plus, when he's done, he can't go and share it with a million different people.

This entire logic about downloads equating to lost sales is schewed. A lot of people most likely would never buy this stuff in the first place and only download because it is available.


Well, who can really say who would've bought what? I know a lot of people who don't buy any music anymore, simply because it is so easy to download. A friend of mine has over 4,000 songs on his iPod. Guess how many of those he paid for? I'll give you a hint... not very many. From my personal experience, there are a few 'honest pirates' out there, but not very many.

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RE[2]: False logic
by Neolander on Mon 29th Nov 2010 08:40 in reply to "RE: False logic"
Neolander Member since:
2010-03-08

Well, who can really say who would've bought what? I know a lot of people who don't buy any music anymore, simply because it is so easy to download.

Same here. But now let's go one step further : why is it much easier in today's world to pirate songs than to buy them ?

Editors and distributors pretend to address this major issue by making piracy harder. This is, as we all know, fundamentally doomed to failure. Now, ask yourself why they don't even talk about going the other way.

What if it was, say, beneficial to them to hurt legit customers ? A benefit which does not exist for pirates ?

I've been wondering about this for some times...

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