Linked by Thom Holwerda on Tue 30th Nov 2010 22:59 UTC
Debian and its clones "ZFS will be supported in Debian Squeeze using the official installer. This means that Debian Squeeze will be one of the first GNU distributions to support ZFS. In fact, even though ZFS support didn't make it to Debian-Installer beta1 by the time it was released, it is now available in the netboot images (this happens because netboot images fetch newer installer components from the internet)."
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RE: Finally
by phoenix on Wed 1st Dec 2010 18:53 UTC in reply to "Finally"
phoenix
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2005-07-11

Don't forget access to PF and IPFW. And, one would hope anyway, GEOM.

Unfortunately, they put the GNU userland on top. ;) There's just so many things done better in the BSD userland (like ifconfig, vmstat -i, bsdtar, nc, a bunch more I can't think of right now but that irritate me to no end when I try to access them on Linux systems).

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RE[2]: Finally
by Neolander on Fri 3rd Dec 2010 13:49 in reply to "RE: Finally"
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2010-03-08

(There's just so many things done better in the BSD userland (like ifconfig, vmstat -i, bsdtar, nc, a bunch more I can't think of right now but that irritate me to no end when I try to access them on Linux systems).

And my university's FreeBSD machines can't even run top properly (no output, sole thing to do is Ctl+C) and take ages to boot as soon as there's a single small package update because they absolutely have to do that at boot time.

Not to mention that everything slows down to death when you're running out of disk quota, even though there's still plenty of RAM available.

I'm sure that a properly configured BSD does not have these issues, what I'm trying to say is that maybe your issues with Linux do not come from Linux software as a whole, and you'd find a properly configured Linux system more interesting.

Edited 2010-12-03 13:58 UTC

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RE[3]: Finally
by phoenix on Fri 3rd Dec 2010 16:22 in reply to "RE[2]: Finally"
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2005-07-11

And my university's FreeBSD machines can't even run top properly (no output, sole thing to do is Ctl+C) and take ages to boot as soon as there's a single small package update because they absolutely have to do that at boot time.


Uh, no, packages are not "updated" at boot time. Nor are they installed at boot time. The only OS I know of that does that is Windows Vista/7.

I'm sure that a properly configured BSD does not have these issues, what I'm trying to say is that maybe your issues with Linux do not come from Linux software as a whole, and you'd find a properly configured Linux system more interesting.


"Properly configured" has nothing to do with GNU ifconfig missing options that FreeBSD ifconfig has, and requiring you to use a slew of binaries to do the same (ifconfig, ip, wiconfig, iwconfig, ethtool, miitool, etc). That's a defect in the ifconfig binary.

Same for vmstat. Same for gstat. Same for tar. Same for most of the BSD binaries -- they are just more featureful and easier to use than the Linux ones.

Just about daily, I go to do something on a Linux station, and find that I can't do it as easily as on a FreeBSD station.

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