Linked by Thom Holwerda on Wed 1st Dec 2010 22:45 UTC
In the News And so the Wikileaks saga continues - with politics once again crossing with the technology side of things. After several DDoS attacks on Wikileaks' website, the organisation decided to move their website over to Amazon's cloud service yesterday. Today, Amazon kicked Wikileaks out of its cloud after being pressured by US Congress. Update: [Kroc] In a Q&A on the Guardian website, Julian Assange drops the bomb--Amazon failed the test: "Since 2007 we have been deliberately placing some of our servers in jurisdictions that we suspected suffered a free speech deficit inorder to separate rhetoric from reality. Amazon was one of these cases.". Stunning.
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RE: the truth is there
by weorthe on Thu 2nd Dec 2010 07:39 UTC in reply to "the truth is there"
weorthe
Member since:
2005-07-06

(you are not america[america it's composed by a lot of countries], nor you are north america[USA, Canada and Mexico


In the English language, "America" is not a continent. "North America is." "South America" is. "The Americas" (plural) is a region, as is "Latin America," "Central America," etc. There is no ambiguity. Anyway, it was Europeans who named it.

The real kleptonymaniacs are the good people of so-called "Europe," i.e., the European Union, which contains neither Europe's largest nor second largest country, nor its two most populous countries, nor its most powerful one.

As for the leaks, the latest ones don't seem to show "America" doing anything wrong, unless being polite in public and frank in private is somehow wrong.

As for the government's response to the leaks, it's about what you'd expect in a free country. The nation's newspaper of record, the New York Times, along with hundreds of others, prints excerpts without fear of censorship or retribution. Politicians posture and blather. Companies like Amazon simper, but Amazon is not a news organization, it is a retail outlet with a different mission. You can find out anything at all about the leaks on do-no-evil Google.

Do you think a Russian newspaper will print the leaks about Putin and Medvedev? Can you discuss the leaks about North Korea in a Chinese chat room?

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RE[2]: the truth is there
by phreck on Fri 3rd Dec 2010 12:45 in reply to "RE: the truth is there"
phreck Member since:
2009-08-13

In the English language, "America" is not a continent.


In the english language, or in your common parlance? I ask because all english/german dictionaries handy translate "America" with Amerika, which is the continent, and afair this is also the way I learned it in school.

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RE[3]: the truth is there
by Tuishimi on Sun 5th Dec 2010 00:48 in reply to "RE[2]: the truth is there"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

Well you were taught incorrectly. The continents are named North America and South America. Two distinct land masses separated at plate boundaries.

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RE[2]: the truth is there
by MichelB on Sat 4th Dec 2010 10:41 in reply to "RE: the truth is there"
MichelB Member since:
2010-12-04

Hello,

I read somewhere (leave it up to you to find it) that the US government psuhed the New York Times to not publish certain facts that were released by wikileaks.

There is a difference between telling your version of the story and the full story ... They can't force anybody to not publish a story about it, but they can control what appears in it ...

I think there are too many interests here that you have to be very strong to withstand them. Information is something powerfull and who in the US would like to share/lose their power?

Michel

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RE[3]: the truth is there
by weorthe on Sat 4th Dec 2010 11:30 in reply to "RE[2]: the truth is there"
weorthe Member since:
2005-07-06

The way it is working is several news organizations are voluntarily advising Wikileaks on what to redact, with indirect, informal assistance (not pressure) from the US government:

http://www.firstamendmentcenter.org/news.aspx?id=23666

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RE[2]: the truth is there
by Tuishimi on Sun 5th Dec 2010 00:47 in reply to "RE: the truth is there"
Tuishimi Member since:
2005-07-06

I'd mod you up but I've already posted.

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